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Nazism is only outright banned in a few democratic countries. Even in ones where it is, like Germany, there are parties that skirt around it, like AfD. Who are getting uncomfortably popular, BTW.
It's very hard to actually ban an ideology even in heavily authoritarian countries. Doubly so when it's something that's really hard to define, like Fascism. And no, the Ur-fascism paper isn't even the final word on that subject.
IMO it's because the western oligarchs are making bank selling military tech to israel.
Nazism isn't even banned. Just look at all the fucking nazis in the governments of the world.
The only illegal group I am aware of, in the states anyway, is the KKK. And they still fuckin' exist too! 😬
Looking at America, obviously Nazism isn't banned, we have elected a ton of the fuckers.
Being a Nazi is not only not banned in most countries, in some like the US it's explicitly legal (i.e. "Freedom of Speech"). That said, it is (kinda) banned in Germany, yet they are still around over here, because you can't ban people from believing in stuff.
All a state can do is to try and prevent them from gaining too much traction, and I do not feel like Zionism has all that much tbh. Israel's recent actions are very unpopulat in the west, even though most people are not even affected by them in the slightest. Many of the people who protest them probably have no direct connection to Israel or Gaza. So what's the goal of a ban even?
I can only speak for Germany, but here an Israeli sniper and alledged murderer fled the country, bacause he is being persecuted for warcrimes, i.e. the murder of civilians. You also cannot call for the extermination of anyone without riscing consequences. This does not prevent people from being Nazis, Zionists or anything else. It just sanctions them for publicly expressing it.
'All a state can do is to try and prevent them from gaining too much traction, and I do not feel like Zionism has all that much tbh.'
Are you serious? Just look around you ffs.
AIPAC
Because up until recently Zionists weren't committing a genocide
IMO all religion that says you're entitled to shit should be banned from practicing publicly
And it would be easier and more fair to just ban all orginized religion
I think there's an argument that they've been slowly committing one since 1948 or even prior, but things have accelerated recently and the world seems to actually be aware of it now.
This is the reason.
Because being involved in international politics at the state level has a similarly effect on one's morals as the One Ring
looking at russia, you can see nazis everywhere. Even the putin's Wagner terror group is based on nazism ideologies.
Even ruscism ideology is not banned.
Nazism isn’t “banned” per se, at least in the U.S. as the First Amendment does not allow for viewpoint discrimination, however repugnant a viewpoint might be. But the First Amendment does not protect against cultural, social, or other forms of non-government backlash for those who support disgusting ideologies like Nazism.
So there is no “banning” that could take place of the Zionist viewpoint, if we were to consider it on par with Nazism. By and large in the U.S., Zionism and Nazism are not seen as equally repugnant viewpoints in the cultural landscape, hence the difference in how supporters of these views are treated. Hope that makes sense.
Because those same countries were never ideologically opposed to fascism in the first place. America was a major inspiration for Hitler, namely in its jim crow laws and eugenics. Before world war 2, America loved Hitler. And the western powers are the reason why Zionism exists as an influential ideology to begin with. Britain gave the land for zionists to colonize to begin with. All of these same countries also committed the same atrocities themselves when colonizing places like the Americas, Africa, and Asia. Liberal governments have never been opposed to colonialism, genocide, or fascism.
How do you even define that? Why is pro Russianism not banned?
What should they do after you have been found guilty of Zionism?
PS Nazism ist not banned, it's alive and well.
Zionism unlike the Nazis is not a threat to western democracy. They want a Jewish state in the Middle East, which is not part of the West. As long as the West is not involved, it usually does nothing or just some arms export bans on the countries and some sanctions on leaders. Currently that is happening in Sudan, which is about as bad as Gaza, but has really nothing to do with the West. There is nothing about it in the news at least in the West.
The real intressting part is more that the West is not sitting on the sitelines, but is somewhat aiding Israel. It obviously depends on the country and some do not do it at all. However even so, you see Western countries moving away from Israel. All but the US that is.
The only thing that might be "surprising" for some in the support for Israel by Governments in the West (not to be confused with the general population, which just about everywhere seems to be far more anti-Genocide than the politicians) is how it massivelly contrasts which the last decades of talk of Freedom & Democracy from the politicians as well as the long running official posture towards the last bunch of Genocidal Ethno-Fascists - the NAZIs - which was mainly justified on their ethnic cleansing atrocities.
For those who all along were suspicious of the former words being nothing more than self-serving propaganda from some Western nations to excuse them de facto imposing their will on the people of other lands, usually to take their stuff (most commonly, Oil), and the latter being the useful parts of the truth whilst the inconvenient parts (like, for example, how Churchill himself was a Genocider or how the US profited from the War and only really entered it because of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor) were as much as possible not talked about, none of what's going on is surprising, except perhaps the pleasant surprise of the reactions of the actual population (not the politicians, especially not the governing ones) in several such countries, often going against the will of the power elites and the heavy propaganda being deployed to convince them otherwise (for example, for all the Genocide-support of the UK Government and the BBC, not that long ago there was a demonstration with half a million Britons against the Genocide - think about it: 1.5% of the British population came out in a demonstration which is entirelly for the good of somebody else, not themselves, so 100% a question of Principle).
The politicians in general are and always have been Sociopaths, but on this which is a massive issue of Moral and Principle (it's hard to come up with a stronger issue of Moral and Principle than the mass murder of children), most of the population are not Sociopaths nor are they following the Sociopaths, even in those countries were they are swamped by pro-Genocide Propaganda, some of which quite subtle and using techniques from Psychology to try and manipulate people's perceptions.
because Nazis was the enemy and declared war on them while Zionists are the west allies.
What Israel is doing nowadays IS different from what the NAZIs did, in that the Zionists aren't yet attacking the "superior" races.
The Humanitarianism in Western "Democracies" was always performative, the least democratic the nation the more performative it was, which I why generally you see the most support for Israel in the countries with the least democratic voting systems like the US and the UK (though present day Germany is a bit of an exception to this since they have a mixed voting system with a Proportional Vote component).
Way back in the beginning of NAZIsm the European and American elites loved the NAZIs and their ideas (for example, there is a picture of young British Princess Elizabeth, later Queen Elizabeth, being taught how to do a NAZI salute by her uncle, the then King) and it was only when the NAZIs attacked other Europeans that they turned against the NAZIs. This actually makes lots of sense as the NAZI ideas of the inherent superiority of some over others, especially along ethnic lines, were normalized in early XXth Century American and European society and very popular amongst the old-wealth elites (which naturally saw themselves as inherently superior to the rest, as that explained their higher status and priviledges in their societies - they deserved to be born into wealth because they were superior people)
We're looking back at the NAZIs from the end of a long track that included a period of propaganda heavilly against them which was necessary to inspire the population to support the war effort against them - in the period betwen then and now all the shit they did came out and none of it was reframed to seem justifiable (as is being done right now for the Zionist Genocide by many politicians and news media), quite the contrary: through some of the most powerful means to do so - dramatic films - we were made to experience and empathize with some of the pain of the victims of the Holocaust, mainly the Jewish (curiously, that of the Roma and Sindi was pretty much ignored) as well as repeatedly made to feel pride in the actions of the men and women that fought against the NAZIs in WWII and in the Resistance movements in places like France (just compare the portrayal of the Resistance Française to how Hamas is being portrayed)
I have little doubt that had the NAZIs just sticked to exterminating "lesser races" (like in the eyes of just about every Racist out there the Zionists are doing), the "pragmatism" (read, treating Principles as secondary to the Economic interests of the elites and themselves) of those in "Democratic" governments would have a lot of them justifying, reframing, denying and excusing the murderous actions of the NAZIs and claiming they didn't really do a Genocide, same as they do now for the murderous actions of the Zionists.
By the way, this also explains the massive difference in the reaction to the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the reaction to the Israeli Genocide in Gaza, even though the latter is thousands of times more murderous for civilians.
Are you writing about Russia?
Because Zionism is not per se a problematic thing let alone comparable to Nazism. It's basically the idea that Jews should have their own nation in any form or shape. It's a national liberation movement.
What Netanjahu and his racket is making out of it is Religious or Revisionist Zionism specifically. And it's at least slightly problematic comparing that to Nazism as well.
t’s basically the idea that Jews should have their own nation in any form or shape.
Honestly I don't see how ethnonationalism is a positive idea no matter what the ethnicity is
I mean, there's also the whole issue of the planned site for the state being occupied, and not even wanting to share with the original inhabitants.
Less problematic than Nazism, though? Sure.
I mean, before starting with Zyclon-B, also the Nazis wanted the Jews to just move to Madagascar.
So I really just see a temporal offset.
It's not uncommon for ethnic conflicts in general, but there's a lot of extra dimensions in the Nazi case. The Jewish conspiracy that handed WWI to the Entante, and was also behind communism somehow, was always a centerpiece of their whole ideology. And obviously, Nazis didn't just go after Jews. They make up about half of the Holocaust and are dwarfed by random war casualties, often civilian. If they won the plan was to kill a good share of all Slavs and bring back slavery for the rest.
There's nobody more recent I'd say are on the same tier except maybe ISIS.
However, the problem is that these extremist influences are not a new occurrence in Zionism but have been a part of it since the beginning of the political movement. The question of how to deal with the fact there was basically no habitable place on earth left uninhabited to found a state in, was answered very differently by different parts of the movement.
Because the zionists didn't do the holocaust.
People are still pretty sorry about the Holocaust, there's Christian mysticism associated with it, the Middle East is a rough neighborhood and Zionists have used all of those things to great effect.
Sadly, Nazism isn't banned in most western countries.
They couldn't even get that right.