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I'm starting to think Israel aren't the good guys...

For those of you doubting the claims for lack of evidence, stating that you'll "wait for the facts" or evidence before allowing yourslf to be outraged—

Where is your outrage for the countless other people who were there who personally testified to being beaten, abused, and paraded around like trophies?

There are already multiple interviews with Chris Smalls, a black American labor organizer, who directly confirmed that he had been beaten, choked, packed like a sardine into a small cell, sleep deprived, strip searched, and completely brutalized by the Israeli navy and prison system.

Ask yourself—why does this need to have happened to the appropriately aged, white, European female on a 4k, live streamed or recorded feed with corroborating testimony by the Israelis and the national newspapers of the country of origin of the supposed victim—why is that the bar you've set for credulity?

What does that say about you or your reaction to the situation?

Wake. Up.

Fuck the details, fuck the squabbling over what constitutes "roughness" versus physical assault. Fuck the inclination to want to hear "the other side" of the story. Things are going horribly wrong in Israel/Palestine—in a place that we've all been told over and over is supposed to be demonstrably above reproach. If even half these claims are true—if even a single one of them is true—what GOOD is it preserving the supposed beacon of democracy in the middle east when they treat foreigners this way?

Even if you think these activists are mentally unwell, or menaces, or being performative, or just doing this for "selfies"—so what? We all know these activists are obviously not terrorists and at least some of them genuinely believe what they are doing. None of this justifies their treatment. Nothing justifies the richest and proudest countries on earth—however much you might agree with that claim—what GOOD is that if our prisons condemn people to absolute squalor and abandonment to the whims of their guards?

HOW is this any different from the indignity camps? These peoples possessions were seized as trophies , their clothes taken, their bodies crammed together like chattel. Do there need to be ovens for there to be discernable lines? Must you feel the radiant heat on your own brows before you'll indulge the sensation that something isn't right here?

Wake. Up.

Wow, Israel really is the only democracy in the Middle East!

They are the evil they claim to be fighting

Idk why this is treated as though its so inconceivable. Greta is hated by conservatives around the world. Most countries have already condemned Israel. They only care what Trump's regime thinks. Their prisons are notorious centers of physical emotional and sexual torture. This is relatively mild treatment in comparison to many of the accounts I've read. It's still awful, but if they were going to invent a story about how vile the Israeli prison guards were, this wouldnt be noteworthy in any way. Barely even scratches the surface of the things that happen in those prisons.

Israel to Nazis: When I left you I was but the learner now I am the master.

Israel has apparently said this in response to the situation:

Israel is and will remain a state governed by the rule of law, committed to upholding the rights and dignity of all individuals in accordance with international standards

I don't see how that's consistent with them murdering civilians in Gaza.

The most expected outcome of the expedition.

Exactly the kind of thing Israel would do. Very consistent and predictable of them.

Breaking: terrorists behave like terrorists

Israel is a rogue terrorist state.

Israel is a terrorist state.

Bruh, reminds me of the stories I heard about ww2 when the imperial japanese army invaded my homeland China, they would force people to kneel and sing the japanese national anthem under the threat of execution if people didn't comply. Its so evil disgusting villainy.

Regardless of what your opinions on Palestine might be, Israel really isn't beating the allegations right now.

I remember what I learned in school about this, it was described as a territory dispute between two equal belligerents. Maybe that was true 30 years ago, I don't know, but it really doesn't describe what's going on right now.

The war is over. Israel won, Palestine barely even exists anymore. This is the part where you're supposed to facilitate aid and win over the losers to your side. dafuq flavor of genocide you dune Israel?

of course, nobody who needs to read this will ever see it. I'm just upset that this kind of thing can even happen in current year.

Of course the second, I'm looking at current events like it's still 2015. not sure why I'm doing that, but fuck does current events make me miss 2015.

Israel is evil

Fuck Israel. Free Palestine.

Fuck israehell ! Free Palestine 🕊

Right wing religious nutters are well known for treating people like shit. The modern violence, on those dried rocks, originates from around 1917. Albert Einstein is 100% correct.

Al Jazeera has a different report. They say she was dragged, not beaten.

I cannot understand the language spoken in that X video, there is no translation, and there are no free publicly available no-login X.com video translation options that I can find.

Additionally I cannot find the cnn turk video from this activist on the internet anywhere but this x link.

I would be very surprised if they actually did what this post describes because everyone would be outraged. She's a sweetheart and so many eyes are watching what they do.

Fuck Israel completely. No one cares about you anymore or anything that has ever happened to you. Fuck you

Cowards