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    Cross-posted from "It's that time again" by @Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com in !linux_memes@programming.dev


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    [–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 178 points 1 week ago (17 children)
    [–] FishFace@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago

    This is what I concluded in the end...

    [–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I do at home, can't choose at work (but we keep pushing the people in charge)

    [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

    I heard of imposing operating systems (which I'm also against*), but never specific distros or DEs.

    * at least for technical people who know what they're doing and wont spam the IT support

    [–] menemen@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

    If it is a larger company that defintly would make maintenance easier.

    [–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    My company started enforcing Macs this year but as a special exception they'll let us use Windows or Ubuntu. No other distro and the CTO must still authorize it.

    The reason? Meet some vague security guidelines that the PR team wants us to be able to say we meet, by forcing us to run a spying agent to ensure our OS is up-to-date so I'm not vulnerable to leaking data I don't even have access to. But the tool doesn't support anything that updates frequently.

    I had just built a brand new laptop for work and I refused to sully it with Ubuntu so I installed it on an old desktop and just been putting zero effort into fixing Ubuntu shit. Wifi often can't handle meetings, none of my cameras worked ootb - also can't go to the office anymore since I can't carry the desktop there.

    Still a year away from being able to request the company buys me a machine again (last time there were no conditions for it) - but I don't intend to stay here until then.

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    [–] Emi@ani.social 10 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    What distro do you use with it? So far I liked mint with cinnamon but looking to switch my main PC to Linux and ditch windows on October 23rd.

    [–] Tiempo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 week ago

    With KDE, you can go with Fedora if you like something "closer" to mint experience. I use it with Endeavor OS and I'm very happy

    [–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 week ago

    EndeavourOS

    ☺️such a joy

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    [–] rozodru@piefed.social 62 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    The other week had a GNOME dev reply to a thread of mine on mastodon stating that the users desire to select a default terminal emulator was an "edge case" and it was beneath GNOME. then all the GNOME fanboys came out to his defense.

    It's an insufferable DE and community.

    [–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

    As insufferable as KDE users always shitting on gnome?

    I've generally found gnome users just use it. New KDE releases don't have gnome fanboys bashing it, etc.

    But new GNOME releases? Directly the opposite.

    Really wish people would just chill.

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    [–] ampy@discuss.online 49 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I like how GNOME looks and functions for the most part, but I really wish the world provide more options instead of whatever design philosophy they think needs enforced.

    [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Obligatory mention that Linux Mint's dev team have forked some GNOME apps into their own XApps* project. Part of the reason is so that those apps retain the user's window manager's look and feel rather than GNOME's enforced interface design. That might even be the main reason, but they also throw in their own improvements to the apps where they feel they're necessary.

    They've not yet forked all GNOME-looking applications in Mint, and I'm not even sure they intend to, but it's a noble effort.

    * Yes, it really is called that. Like I've said before, they probably could have chosen a better name, but they chose it before Wayland was a real threat and before Twitter got lobotomised.

    [–] Arcka@midwest.social 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    X referred to a display server since long before Twitter was born.

    [–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 1 points 5 days ago

    They're commenting about how the name is bad and how that X is ruined in the public zeitgeist. Yes, X the display framework has been around for decades, but Random Joe 28507 still doesn't know what that X is.

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    [–] Best_Jeanist@discuss.online 42 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    I don't use gnome because I don't think a desktop use interface should be designed for iPads

    I've got Gnome installed on a tablet PC. It's not good there, either.

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    [–] ibot@feddit.org 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I think Gnome is the most beautyful Desktop out there. But it's UX drives me crazy. I tried it a few times but never could get used to it. I always needed extensions to customize it to my needs. But that's also what I want to avoid because extensions might break in the future. Therefore, Gnome is simply not the right Desktop for me.

    But I'm happy for everyone who likes to use Gnome. The great thing about Linux: We have a choice!

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    [–] eneff@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    I'm having a great time on GNOME, even without any extensions at all!

    [–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (16 children)

    That is sort of the thing with Gnome. If you like it it's great, but if you don't there is nothing you can do to really change it. Like I think it's okay, but there are things I don't like and it is just too much effort to try to adapt it to my preferences.

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    [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

    There are so many things the Linux kernel project does just right. One of them is "never break user space".
    Unfortunately most projects completely fail to get why this is important.
    I think one of the worst examples is the enormous setback it caused when Python was "upgraded" from 2 to 3, which meant breakage of huge amounts of libraries, that were never fixed, and was extremely detrimental to Python.

    The kernel respects user-space, but actual user front ends do not!?!?!
    KDE generally does the same when they upgrade to new versions of QT.

    [–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 week ago

    The kernel equivalent of shell extensions would be kernel modules. Out of tree modules break all the time. There's no stable in-kernel ABI, just like there's no guarantee that shell internals never change.

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    [–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    GNOME is great but people recommending it to beginners need to make it clear that there is only minor customization, and that major customization / extensions will cause headaches.

    Plasma is highly customizable out of the box. It's personal preference in the end of course.

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    [–] Decq@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

    This is why I stopped using Gnome. After every update most of my extensions stopped working. Some took ages to get up to date or were abandoned. And there was no simple way to enable all extensions that the update disabled, having to manually enable them one by one. Maybe that has changed now? It's been yearsnow... Not that I would go back anyway, tiling managers is where it's at.

    [–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 week ago

    Dunno, I saw GNOME 3 run like molasses on my PC, went "ok, this might be lost cause", went with LXDE and then XFCE, and now I'm like "if it's a beefy proper PC I'll go with KDEPlasma and if it's, like, very obsolete system I'll, dunno, go with XFCE".

    GNOME is just opinionated. I get it, it was kinda vaguely modeled after Mac OS, which is kinda an opinionated desktop environment, but the thing is, it's even more opinionated than Mac OS ever was. The thing about (early!) Mac OS X was "hey, we have this slick desktop environment but also some power user features you might want to use. But we're not forcing you to!" (Kinda like GNOME 2!) ...GNOME has been kinda sweeping those under the rug, in my opinion.

    [–] Johnny101@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

    Which is why Plasma is better

    [–] DiabolicalBird@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    We all got choices, that's what I like about Linux. KDE seems to run great for most people, for me it always seems to bug out and act super janky (the panel editor in particular would bug out and crash constantly, I could never get the damn thing to where I liked it). If it was more stable for me I'd probably use it, I love customizing my system. I've tried making it work a few times, never seems to click.

    GNOME's extensions may break on updates from time to time but my day to day experience with it is much nicer. While more rigid it's a lot more polished and doesn't crash out on me just using the interface. I like the layout of it. I'm glad KDE works for so many of you guys, but I'll stick with GNOME until a better option comes around.

    That said, if anyone has a better suggestion for a desktop environment I'm all ears.

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    [–] eleijeep@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    It really is a shame that they force you to update to the new version. If only there was some way to continue using the existing Gnome version until the extensions have been updated by their authors.

    [–] jj4211@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    If you want to update your software broadly, it's a pain in the ass if you need to try to hold gnome and only gnome back.

    And many of those extensions get abandoned after the authors get tired of the treadmill of having to redo stuff they already did.

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