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[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 142 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Thanks for including the mirror, OP.

Companies that obtain mobile phone location data generally do it in two different ways. The first is through software development kits (SDKs) embedded in ordinary smartphone apps, like games or weather forecasters. These SDKs continuously gather a user’s granular location, transfer that to the data broker, and then sell that data onward or repackage it and sell access to government agencies.

The second is through real-time bidding (RTB). When an advert is about to be served to a mobile phone user, there is a near instantaneous, and invisible, bidding process in which different companies vie to have their advert placed in front of certain demographics. A side-effect is that this demographic data, including mobile phones’ location, can be harvested by surveillance firms. Sometimes spy companies buy ad tech companies out right to insert themselves into this data supply chain. We previously found at least thousands of apps were hijacked to provide location data in this way.

I really despise these practices. I don't know how people can build these tools with a clear conscience.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 44 points 12 hours ago

That’s easy. You just ignore your conscience because money speaks louder to these people.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago

I don’t know how people can build these tools with a clear conscience.

Have you seen the job market for programmers lately? It feels like it's almost all for AI slop, abusive rentier middleman business models that add no real value, ~~defense~~ war contractors, or all of the above at once.

That's not to say that it's acceptable for people to work those jobs with a clear conscience; it's to say that for a bunch of people the only ethical options would be to remain unemployed or leave the industry.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 13 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Jesus fucking Christ. Time to delete the two games I’ve ever downloaded. Dunno if that even helps at this point.

[–] SL3wvmnas@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 8 hours ago

I switched to /e/ a while ago, they have a feature called advanced privacy. commercial Lemmy clients like Connect and Raccoon have trackers embedded and are blocked automagically. ^I use Jerboa btw^

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 27 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's not specific to games, it's all apps that have ads

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 11 points 10 hours ago

I should have just went back to the flip phone like ten years ago.

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[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 45 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This reminds me of something... What was it... Hmm...

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 16 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

And that was before the NSA leaks.

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[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Looking forward to joining you guys in the upcoming rebellion.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world 17 points 9 hours ago

Ok take a nap....

But then fire ze missiles!

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Their job is to track, find, abduct, imprison and deport people. That skillset and logistic apparatus is as effective against everyone as it is immigrants.

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[–] Arondeus@lemmy.ca 15 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Hmm can't seem to load the archive site so haven't read the whole thing. Anyone know details of how this works? Are we all fucked if we have a phone or is staying off social media and hardening security with something like Graphene OS enough to keep you out of their system?

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

GrapheneOS already runs google play services in a sandbox that doesn't have core access to the device's functionality (you can lie about giving apps storage access or location data, for example), and because you already have alternatives to ad-based services (CoMaps, Thunderbird, etc...) you should be safe from telemetry often hidden inside of popular apps like Google Maps.

Nothing's bulletproof, of course, but the difference with GrapheneOS is that you can see what's going on, grant permissions selectively to certain apps, or opt out entirely by only installing F-droid apps or using Graphene's FOSS suite. You don't have pre-baked telemetry at all, so nothing for them to harvest.

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works -2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Good luck buying your spyware with a frozen budget

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