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The ex-Fox News host railed against decades of work to diversify the all-volunteer military as he announced initiatives to effectively exclude women from combat roles and relax protections against hazing and bullying of troops

More than 800 of America’s top military leaders sat silent and showed no reaction as ex-Fox News presenter turned Pentagon boss Pete Hegseth told them he was issuing a series of new directives that will make it harder for women to serve in combat and easier for personnel to engage in hazing and bullying without repercussions during an unprecedented gathering of flag-rank officers at a Marine Corps base in Virginia on Tuesday.

The Secretary of War — a title not used by the head of the U.S. military establishment since 1947 but revived by President Donald Trump earlier this month — told the group of admirals, generals, and their senior enlisted advisers he was “ending the war on warriors” and complained that too many of their peers had been put in their roles “for the wrong reasons” including their race and gender.

Standing in front of a large American flag backdrop, he attacked by name several of the leaders’ retired peers, telling them that the department’s “compass heading” was “clear.”

“Out with the Chiarelli, the McKenzies and the Milleys and in with the Stockdales the Schwartzkopfs and the Pattons,” he said, denigrating former Army Vice Chief of Staff General Peter Chiarelli, ex-U.S. Central Command commander and Marine Corps General Kenneth McKenzie Jr, and ex-Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman and Army General Mark Milley, each of whom has been critical of Trump or his administration.

“The sooner we have the right people, the sooner we can advance the right policies,” he added.

Hegseth also groused about efforts to open up combat roles to women and initiatives to “weed out so-called toxic leaders” and blamed “foolish and reckless” politicians for having “set the wrong compass” and causing the Pentagon to lose its way.

Hegseth, an Iraq War veteran who attained the rank of Major in the Army National Guard but became a critic of the Pentagon’s efforts to open up military service to women, racial minorities and LGBT+ persons, said the War Department must “restore a ruthless, dispassionate and common sense application of standards” that are “uniform, gender neutral and high.”

He told the assembled leaders he was issuing a directive to ensure that “every designated Combat Arms” role across all branches “returns to the highest male standard only,” all but reversing a 2015 directive from then-Defense Secretary Ashton Carter to open all combat roles to women.

“If you do not meet the male level physical standards for combat positions ... it's time for a new position or a new profession,” he said. “If women can make it excellent. If not, it is what it is. If that means no women qualify for some combat jobs, so be it.”

The War Secretary also claimed — without offering evidence — that the Pentagon had lowered standards “to hit racial quotas as well” and said the revised standards he was promulgating are based on what he called the “1990 test,” which compares today’s standards to those in 1990, a time when women were barred from combat roles and LGBT+ persons were banned from serving.

“The 1990s test is simple. What were the military standards in 1990 and if they have changed, tell me why was it a necessary change based on the evolving landscape of combat, or was the change due to a softening, weakening or gender based pursuit of other priorities? 1990s seems to be as good a place to start as any,” he said.

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[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 17 minutes ago* (last edited 16 minutes ago)

What were the military standards in 1990 and if they have changed, tell me why was it a necessary change based on the evolving landscape of combat, or was the change due to a softening, weakening or gender based pursuit of other priorities?

I would argue that the number is boots on the ground, the actual number of troops ready to deploy is probably the most militarily significant factor in any military in history. That said, if laws changed to allow LGBT+ citizens to take part in the military, that likely increases the number of people volunteering to serve by about 10%. That seems incredibly significant to me.

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

This meeting could have been a signal chat

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 hour ago

Too many reporters, one is the limit.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 hours ago

He's literally a 12 year old trying to talk tough in a CoD lobby...

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 4 hours ago
[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 27 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

In a better timeline the top brass rushed the stage & pulled Kegseth apart like a chicken.

[–] Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Is that something you typically do to chickens where you’re from?

[–] Tuxman@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 hours ago

Only when we can’t afford a piñata

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 58 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

So the whole "recalling all the generals home for a big meeting" was just "this could have been an email" media bluster.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

From what I gathered, it was pretty much a dog and pony show intended to show the world that our military is stronk, otherwise it wouldn't have been televised.

[–] elvith@feddit.org 18 points 12 hours ago

He feared for it to get caught in a spam filter.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 12 points 12 hours ago

I was worried it would be a purge or briefing for invading Greenland or some shit

[–] Mika@piefed.ca 4 points 9 hours ago

Fr fr, gather everyone just to say "shave yur head" lol, what a clowns

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 42 points 12 hours ago

To be fair they're silent because, the room was called to attention. When you're at attention, you don't clap, you stand still at attention.

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

We have a literal child running our military, we might honestly want to get ready for any shit China or Russia or Iran might try to pull while we have our pants down.

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

The children running the show are doing more damage than China or Iran could ever hope for. From an outside perspective it's actually incredible how badly things are going for the US in only 9 months.

Russia, on the other hand, seem to be part of it.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 152 points 16 hours ago (6 children)

I wonder how generals feel about being told how to do their jobs by a major.

[–] Geobloke@aussie.zone 5 points 5 hours ago

Who bankrupted several veterans organisations and dishonoured his marriage vows several tonnes

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 13 points 11 hours ago

And someone who was a major failure at being a military officer.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 71 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I'm sure they are hyped, delighted, and filled with espirit de corps about all of this.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 55 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

"Hey you fat fucks, none of this girl shit. We're going to all do push-ups and jack off to the good kind of porn and get cool Hearts of Iron 4 tattoos and pray to the Real Jesus and any of you phony losers who complains can hit the fucking bricks! Now lets go fight some wars because we love peace!"

Punches the air

Chops crotch repeatedly

Tries to do a stage dive, hesitates, and walks it back pretending to look cool about it

Yeah, I can't imagine why this fell flat.

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[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 14 points 13 hours ago (2 children)
[–] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

That’s at least useful

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 4 hours ago

Dildos bring joy to people. Petey Hegseth does not bring joy.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 33 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (8 children)

Starting to think the military may be the last hope of true allegiance to the flag.

Trump needs a war to declare martial law and then undermine elections. He can then claim he's only doing what Zelenskyy has done.

Think we also saw this tried in South Korea didn't we?

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 50 points 15 hours ago (41 children)

He can claim anything, but Ukraine's constitution doesn't allow elections during war. America's does.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

Since when does Trump do anything according to the US constitution?

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[–] HeartyOfGlass@piefed.social 112 points 15 hours ago

"the sooner we have the right people, the sooner we can advance the right policies"

It's pronounced reich, dipshit.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 hours ago

I really, really hope that Hegseth takes his "war on beards" bullshit and tries to force the "Tier 1" / Special Mission Unit people to shave their beards and meet his grooming standards.

[–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 43 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sure more bigotry, bullying and hazing will be super helpful with that perpetual recruiting crisis.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 29 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Since they're in the process of crashing the economy, they're counting on young poor people not having much choice.

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[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 46 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

“The sooner we have the right people, the sooner we can advance the right policies”….. holy shit.

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[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 41 points 16 hours ago (7 children)

I don't understand why they say the minorities they fired were not capable or meritorious. I also don't understand why forced de-bearding isn't a direct violation of religious freedom for those who adhere to certain religions, since the same concept is used to fuck over women because birth control is icky. Forced shaving for photo ops style troops seems stupid anyway. Why introduce the risk of ingrown hairs, inflammation, and infection?

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 hours ago

I don't understand why they say the minorities they fired were not capable or meritorious.

Because they're racists and they can get away with saying that.

I also don't understand why forced de-bearding isn't a direct violation of religious freedom

Because they control all 3 branches of government, and the Supreme Court is pretty strongly MAGA. So, the prosecutors are owned by Trump and wouldn't touch a case like that, and a civil lawsuit would just eventually lose.

[–] superfes@lemmy.world 43 points 15 hours ago

Because it disproportionately affects people with higher melanin content. And this whole shit brigade is racist trash.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 51 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

That was how it was when the Trump appointed Secretary made a department-wide speech where I work. The half of the crowd that sat through the whole thing went mild. Or, at least, that's what I heard. I was in the other half.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 37 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I seem to remember the secdef from Trump 1 relieving the captain of an aircraft carrier of his command because he made public that there was a COVID outbreak on board and no accommodations were being made. It culminated with Secdef Shitheel getting on the intercom of this carrier and belittling the former captain in front of the entire crew. There's videos some of the crew took.

I don't even remember this guy's name, but I do remember that, like Hegseth, he had little military experience to speak of. Most of his career was corporate management or something.

That's what this admin loves. Worthless corpos and shitheel influencers belittling and browbeating the people who actually hold things together.

[–] Old_Jimmy_Twodicks@sh.itjust.works 39 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

The captain was Captain Brett Crozier of the USS Theodore Roosevelt. He was fired by the acting Secretary of the Navy, Thomas ~~Moldy~~ Modly. The fallout was so bad that his candy ass got relieved a few days later, but not before the ship had an infection rate of around 14% and at least a few deaths.

I wish someone would stick all these people on a big ship, disable all communications equipment on board, tug it to Point Nemo, and just let it drift around there.

[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Send them on a nice, long poop cruise with an extra helping of norovirus.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 4 hours ago

I've been on that cruise. 0/10. Do not recommend.

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[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 31 points 15 hours ago (7 children)

Every good rally ends in total silence.

The comedic timing of having this song queued up and ready to triumphantly play him off stage was impeccable.

Above FAFO and "do the honorable thing and resign," I hope everyone in that audience remembers

  1. Never comply in advance
  2. Fuck you, make me
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