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[–] Saryn@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yes.

Whether they want to admit it or not, that was the whole point - spite and making the people that make you feel insecure suffer out of spite.

It's a form of social regression that people in the Balkans like to sum up by saying "It's not important that I feel good. What's important is that the other person suffers."

[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

Some people only feel 'successful' through their perceived 'position' in society.

They want to believe they are above others.

If you think like that, then pushing others down is a perfectly valid route to happiness - and far faster and easier than working on yourself would be.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

Too confrontarional, the people who should read it will stop after the first sentence.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago

The "others" suffering was payment enough for many.

[–] 33550336@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

Grand Ariana Grande <3

[–] maxmm77@lemmy.world 32 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Ariana didn’t write this. That Instagram person Matt did, and Ariana reposted it.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Matt Bernstein, he's also got a podcast called A Bit Fruity, which (imo) has some very good takes.

Nah it was Matt Berenstain

[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 14 hours ago
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 34 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

This is not how some Trump voters I know think at all; it's not how they think of Trump. Bring up any of these points and they'd think you're totally paranoid.

I witnessed a group of old guys watching the movie 'One Battle After Another' scratch their heads and have literally, honestly no idea what it was about.

It's because they're in the habit of watching Fox News or other 'old' media. Trump's just some Republican like they've always voted for with a bunch of hysterical finger pointers, and any Democrat is basically Jimmy Carter or Hillary Clinton.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 22 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

That's only a portion of Trump voters though. There are a lot of younger voters with less ingrained brain washing that came recently from new media.

I honestly don't know what you do about the people you are speaking of. I have some in my extended family and there is no convincing them of things after 3 decades of programming. Even foundational knowledge isn't the same.

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 18 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

You tell them that Donald Trump is a felon. He committed 34 felonies. He was found guilty by a jury. But the judge decided not to punish him. It's a crime that normally gets prison time and Donald Trump belongs in prison, but the judge was scared. They'll try to deflect and make excuses and every time they do, you just repeat "Donald Trump is a felon"

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That one is pretty straightforward, at least: they don't think trump was really guilty of the crimes he was convicted of. In fact they don't even know what those crimes were, they just assume the charges were baseless and brought by liberal haters. The judge who gave him no punishment was just correcting a wrong done to trump.

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

And that's when you say a jury of 12 ordinary people looked at the evidence and said he was guilty. Trump said he didn't do that, so they looked at the records, and they found that Trump falsified business records. He paid a pornstar to cover up an affair and a lawyer to manipulate online polls, both illegally declared as a legal expense. The fraudulent payments helped him illegally influence the outcome of the 2016 election, and are therefore felonies. If he hadn't committed those crimes, he might never have been president in the first place. We don't get to see what a fair election would have looked like because of his crimes, which a jury decided he did indeed commit.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

And that's when they abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

And that's when you repeat that he's a criminal who rigged two presidencies through fraud and intimidation, and who according to the law belongs in a jail cell at this very moment.

[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

It is not that they are afraid of being convinced. They fear only to appear ridiculous or to prejudice by their embarrassment their hope of winning over some third person to their side.

Don't forget about the last part of the quote. In my opinion it could be there most important part. That is the reason to argue, because we want to show how ridiculous their arguments are to third parties.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

But that was New York man, nuthin but commies out that way anyway

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Well not to mention the rape, and pedophilia.

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 hours ago

The point is to appeal to authority. Authority didn't convict him of rape and pedophilia, so it'll only persuade people who care about finding the truth for themselves. I'm talking about persuading Fox News addicts.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah at some point folks get too old to change. You can try to get them off Fox News at least, but it just depends. Sometimes you can't. Sometimes they really can't even learn a new kind of remote/cable or whatever.

Younger folks are deep down the influencer rabbit hole, and I don't know what to do about that (other than pushing Fediverse) since Big Tech has such an iron grip on everything. I mean, the future is definitely cyberpunk.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Here in WV them olds got fired up quick when they saw SS threatened. They might have to go back to work at 70+ and live the golden years in a golden shower they created with trickle down economics.

Good thing WV has tons of good-paying jobs available for senior citizens!

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 86 points 18 hours ago (8 children)

Yes. They are happier.

They aren’t interested in making life better for anyone. They want it shittier for everyone else rather than actually improve themselves so they don’t have exert any effort or make sacrifices. The suffering they do get from trump’s policies is unexpected or “worth it” to fuck over everyone else.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Over July 4th, I had a fun interaction with a guy running a firework stand in Indiana. I was out there visiting family, and my wife's stepdad asks the guy at the shop if the tariffs are impacting him. His response:

"It's fucked!" Then republican brain kicked in "b b b but u know it's worth it in the long term"

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 32 points 17 hours ago

Exactly, it doesn't matter if Trump's administration makes life worse for MAGA supporters. He could make their lives a living hell for all they care, arguably they're already there. His supporters just want to see people they don't like get hurt. That's it, they want to witness cruelty. Any conservative who didn't jump off MAGA band wagon a long time ago has fully drank the cool-aid.

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[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 264 points 22 hours ago (3 children)
[–] florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 111 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

We've reached the point of idiocracy where everything needs to be read aloud.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 35 points 17 hours ago

No, we haven't. Quit comparing everything to idiocracy; it was overly optimistic compared to reality.

Our problem is not well-meaning stupid people. Our problem is malevolent smart people leading hateful stupid people.

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[–] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 65 points 18 hours ago (10 children)

I don't like Ariana's music, but I respect her as a person and she's very talented at what she does. Despite people constantly making fun of her.

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[–] CaptainHowdy@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 hours ago

Well they are happier. The suffering makes them happier.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.ca 131 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

That's a rational question. Unfortunately it won't get the desired result, because the target audience is not going to behave rationally:

  • The media that they consume is following the fascist playbook. They're telling the audience that if things are not better yet, then it's because there are others still left to blame, and the worse things get the harder those others are going to be blamed for it.
  • Even if someone moves past that propaganda, it's been ingrained into them that to accept being incorrect is to admit failure. They've been primed to dig in and double down, lest their peers see them as a failure, or even worse as others.
[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 27 points 17 hours ago

So many "My business is failing because of tariffs. Those dirty foreigners!" and then follow up with "Sure, I'd vote for him again! I support what he does."

[–] Veedems@piefed.social 43 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (10 children)

Respect to her for being brave enough, as a public figure, and risking an endless torrent of backlash.

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