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Ariana didn’t write this. That Instagram person Matt did, and Ariana reposted it.
Matt Bernstein, he's also got a podcast called A Bit Fruity, which (imo) has some very good takes.
This is not how some Trump voters I know think at all; it's not how they think of Trump. Bring up any of these points and they'd think you're totally paranoid.
I witnessed a group of old guys watching the movie 'One Battle After Another' scratch their heads and have literally, honestly no idea what it was about.
It's because they're in the habit of watching Fox News or other 'old' media. Trump's just some Republican like they've always voted for with a bunch of hysterical finger pointers, and any Democrat is basically Jimmy Carter or Hillary Clinton.
That's only a portion of Trump voters though. There are a lot of younger voters with less ingrained brain washing that came recently from new media.
I honestly don't know what you do about the people you are speaking of. I have some in my extended family and there is no convincing them of things after 3 decades of programming. Even foundational knowledge isn't the same.
You tell them that Donald Trump is a felon. He committed 34 felonies. He was found guilty by a jury. But the judge decided not to punish him. It's a crime that normally gets prison time and Donald Trump belongs in prison, but the judge was scared. They'll try to deflect and make excuses and every time they do, you just repeat "Donald Trump is a felon"
But that was New York man, nuthin but commies out that way anyway
Well not to mention the rape, and pedophilia.
The point is to appeal to authority. Authority didn't convict him of rape and pedophilia, so it'll only persuade people who care about finding the truth for themselves. I'm talking about persuading Fox News addicts.
Yeah at some point folks get too old to change. You can try to get them off Fox News at least, but it just depends. Sometimes you can't. Sometimes they really can't even learn a new kind of remote/cable or whatever.
Younger folks are deep down the influencer rabbit hole, and I don't know what to do about that (other than pushing Fediverse) since Big Tech has such an iron grip on everything. I mean, the future is definitely cyberpunk.
Here in WV them olds got fired up quick when they saw SS threatened. They might have to go back to work at 70+ and live the golden years in a golden shower they created with trickle down economics.
Well they are happier. The suffering makes them happier.
Yes. They are happier.
They aren’t interested in making life better for anyone. They want it shittier for everyone else rather than actually improve themselves so they don’t have exert any effort or make sacrifices. The suffering they do get from trump’s policies is unexpected or “worth it” to fuck over everyone else.
Over July 4th, I had a fun interaction with a guy running a firework stand in Indiana. I was out there visiting family, and my wife's stepdad asks the guy at the shop if the tariffs are impacting him. His response:
"It's fucked!" Then republican brain kicked in "b b b but u know it's worth it in the long term"
Exactly, it doesn't matter if Trump's administration makes life worse for MAGA supporters. He could make their lives a living hell for all they care, arguably they're already there. His supporters just want to see people they don't like get hurt. That's it, they want to witness cruelty. Any conservative who didn't jump off MAGA band wagon a long time ago has fully drank the cool-aid.
Think if they win, they manage to get into some sort space exploration, meet others. The first others they'd meet would laugh and subjucate Earth at best, destroy Earth at worst. That attitude isn't tolerant with a big technology difference. Mean maybe they win the lottery and become the Cardassians from Star Trek or something, but doubtful. In the end there's no upside to the hate, they'll just be as miserable as they were with fewer people to blame it on. Maybe we need to teach mindful meditation to everyone you do get some perspective from that.
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I don't like Ariana's music, but I respect her as a person and she's very talented at what she does. Despite people constantly making fun of her.
I'll admit, I used to be in the anti-Ariana crowd after the whole donut thing surfaced. (Despite being a dumb teen when it happened who, despite not doing things similar, could understand the social pressure of doing it.) But every interview snippet I've seen with her has shown that she's got a good head on her shoulders and most importantly isn't afraid to tell people they're being a jackass on live television.
I didn't like her because I thought she was fake because she seems to switch what race she wants to call herself every couple years. But then I realized a lot of people are fake, and it's hardly the worst character trait. The rest of her makes up for that as much as anyone.
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We've reached the point of idiocracy where everything needs to be read aloud.
No, we haven't. Quit comparing everything to idiocracy; it was overly optimistic compared to reality.
Our problem is not well-meaning stupid people. Our problem is malevolent smart people leading hateful stupid people.
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Respect to her for being brave enough, as a public figure, and risking an endless torrent of backlash.
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That's a rational question. Unfortunately it won't get the desired result, because the target audience is not going to behave rationally:
- The media that they consume is following the fascist playbook. They're telling the audience that if things are not better yet, then it's because there are others still left to blame, and the worse things get the harder those others are going to be blamed for it.
- Even if someone moves past that propaganda, it's been ingrained into them that to accept being incorrect is to admit failure. They've been primed to dig in and double down, lest their peers see them as a failure, or even worse as others.
So many "My business is failing because of tariffs. Those dirty foreigners!" and then follow up with "Sure, I'd vote for him again! I support what he does."
They just want someone to suffer more than them
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