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I respect people's right to use apple products, but please stop asserting "privacy", big corps doesn't give a shit.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I find it hilarious that anyone thinks apple cares about privacy. They clearly have been cultivating that image but it rings pretty hollow to me. They just chose something that would be easy to say they care about that an ad company clearly also doesn't care about.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They care about privacy as they consider themselves the owner of your data.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Like all of this is untrue? You can have you iPhone or whatever at to encrypt shit locally and Apple has no ownership of the data? This obviously comes with tradeoffs, but people are so effing uninformed and apparently riding the dick of google as hard as they can.

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[–] Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org 46 points 1 day ago

That'd be like saying "I totally trust Google with all of my so-called offline documents by using their totally online suite. They totally wouldn't like, be analyzing the contents once I am online or anything, would they?"

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hardware really needs to be opened. So many issues are caused by people being unable to get away from large company control due to them beinf the only ones able to get decent hardware.

[–] jcs@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

The Librem 5 is a Linux phone and already has open board design files, available here.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Um…who actually thinks #3? Apple tells you they sell your stuff and makes app devs tell you. They still sell it, mine it, tailor it for ads, all the same stuff as Google…but just not as pervasive.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago

The GrapheneOS people. Everyone in their IRC unironically thinks Iphones are highly secure, in part BECAUSE they are proprietary. But they also don't tolerate any criticism of Google, especially if you criticize Google for being proprietary.

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Idk what I'm gonna do if the F-Store stops working.

Yoink from github via Obtainium.

Also, obtainium can also yoink from gitlab, selfhisted forgejo, codeberg and also fdroid.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

you can make your point without ableism, you know

also, has anyone (at least here on lemmy) said "well at least apple cares about privacy!!"? the most ive seen is "apple is less atrocious with privacy than google", which is demonstrably true (tho if you care about maximum privacy, using an iphone is obviously not a good idea)

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

This is only ableist if you believe the drooling idiot at the bottom has a disability and is not just a drooling idiot.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

he has facial deformity which is usually accompanied by other developmental issues, and is being used to stand in for exactly that here

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[–] j4k3@piefed.world 20 points 1 day ago

Google: app developers use the zygote loading system to create an everpresent preloaded bedroom on your device with access to whatever they want in sensor hardware access and monitoring. It is essentially like a full equivalent computer user in parallel. This is how it just works while the (exploited-mark) human user is ignorant about operating systems, networking, and security. They have full equivalent access because you do not understand the details. Again these are full equivalent users. They are likely intimately preset with you more than any other partner... If they are there for stalkerware digital slavery, to sell your digital person for exploitation and manipulation, such a transaction is much like prostitution. The motivations of developers that are not whoring people out are mostly benevolent, altruistic, or taking a stand to support liberal democratic freedom. So in essence google is a digital slaver running a loose coalition of independent developer pimps that collectively enslave your digital person for manipulation and exploitation.

Apple: is a central fascist neo feudal lord that centralizes the exploitation and slavery under a single market forum where they directly manipulate and extort every developer and slave. Apple is the stalkerware data salver selling the exact same data to manipulate and extort users just like google.

The difference has been an open market free for all of privateer piracy raiding the coast of Africa to fuel the Southern plantations and flying the Jolly Roger of google, versus the matrix growing humans in a vast vat field with the Jolly Roger of Apple on the side of the buildings. To call one different than the other in terms of privacy is a joke as sour as US politics represents a balanced spectrum of interests. It is all stalkerware data slavery ownership of a part of an individual's physical person for exploitation and manipulation. Open Source software is the last bastion fortress of real citizens in a democracy fighting off zombie pirates flying a Jolly Roger. This is a choice between Apple vanishing people and Google abducting them from the fortress.

ROMs are the red pill, a revolver, and a place to stay for fightimg for freedom from the 21st century digital slavery phase of neo fascism, and its coming total war 3.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I just want smart tube to keep working on my shield

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The last panel could also say “muh iPhone! I was never allowed to sideload anyway!” [I say this as an iPhone user]

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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It’s less that Apple cares about privacy, and more that it’s easier for them to control within a walled garden. If you control all of the levers, the rest naturally falls into place. That doesn’t mean it’s better; it’s just different.

[–] amon@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Apple is secure in the same way a prison is secure. It is great at stopping attackers from entering but also great at stopping you from getting out if you don't do it the approved way.

[–] dudleyflippendoodle@lemmy.zip 4 points 23 hours ago

It’s even more than that. They don’t want the liability of responsibility handling/securing your data in the event their systems are breached.

I used to work for a company that did a lot of business with Apple and have friends who have worked at Apple proper, they’re paranoid about mishandling sensitive data.

[–] chocrates@piefed.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hear Linux phones are close for daily driver stuff. Gonna try one when I am ready for a phone.

Pretty disappointed in my 2 year old pixel, regardless of Googles continued enshitification

[–] Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Sucks that it only works on Pixels for the most part. I've never paid that much for a phone, and I ain't starting now lol

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

FYI, I just got LineageOS on a cheap Motorola phone ($140 USD, but you need a PC to do the install)

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Perhaps there's scope to have a phone be just a dumb 'viewer' and all the processing and apps run on a suitably configured Linux pc or virtual environment at home. The internet in general is getting fast enough that the latency might not be an issue, and it would not need a powerful phone.

Poor example below, controlling an old phone using Rustdesk.

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