A GMC truck complete with two American flag poles on the back. Classic.
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Classic leftist antifa. Better round up every trans person, just in case.
Dear trans Democratic partner. I hope this message finds you in good health. I have left the vehicle in a place unbeknownst to policemen. I will now briefly outline how I have acted under the sway of the radical Trans Antifa group.
Rump keeps pointing fingers at "radical extreme left antifé..." and every week another one of his followers does a mass murder.
As planned.
Whoops! Ha ha. I meant totally . . random chance!
You might even call it... stochastic.
How will they ever discover this pathetic man was trans?
Not needed. They just have to say he was influenced by ” radical trans antifa ideology”
His brother’s girlfriend’s cousin’s barber once liked a photo of a trans person’s cat on instagram. Case. Fucking. Closed.
I shit you not, they're saying he was against trump because he had his trump/pence sign hanging on his fence visible in proximity to a stop sign.
Also, some people have pointed out that a "T Sanford" is a donor to the "BLUE ORIGIN LLC PAC", which is obviously a democratic PAC, and not the lobbying group for the private space flight company Blue Origin LLC, who coincidentally has a Tommy Sanford as their sales director. Because people never have the same name.
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Admittedly did not read the article yet. This is my prediction:
Willing to put money on this being a conservative that is getting revenge on Mormons because of the Kirk killing being in Utah.
Tyler Robinson was raised Mormon so this might very well be the reason.
Hey, let's maybe wait a bit before even reading anything this time. AP itself is quite trustworthy IMO, but the sources themselves often aren't - AP reports what it finds out, but they get their data from police, FBI, etc - not a single link in the chain is infallible, which is why it's best to wait till a bit more is known.
With the Kirk shooter, first he was trans, then he was a groyper, and then later on it turned out he has a trans girlfriend and he was sick of the hate Kirk was spewing. Hell, maybe even THAT isn't the final version. The first one was super comfy for conservatives to believe, the second version was super comfy for the left to believe, and the final version... Honestly again, sounds a bit too convenient. So we'll see.
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Let me guess, he's got The Internationale inscribed on every bullet.
It's a mix of The Internationale, The Communist Manifesto and for some unknown reason The Rocky Horror Picture Show's script.
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With sharpie
I know a lot of good Mormon people/friends and the ones I’m around are such wonderful people. My heart hurts for them and my thoughts are with their community during this time. How sad.
Someone reported they were in the building right after the first call and mentioned there were 4 canvasses covering people and the cops said it would grow. So I suspect this is an early count before they get to the burned section.
Mormons generally come in two flavors: wonderful people taken advantage of by a cult and absolute scum who utilize the cult to abuse others. So here's hoping the shooter got some of the abusers.
The more likely target is of course kids because of Sunday School.
The impact spread quickly to neighboring communities, including the small city that shares a name with the township.
“Although we are two separate governmental units, we are a very cohesive community,” said city of Grand Blanc Mayor John Creasey. “This sort of thing is painful for our entire community. I’m struggling to digest all that has happened, and my heart goes out to all of the affected families.”
Nervous reporter calls wrong number by mistake, feels obliged to put comment in story anyway, more at 11
Damn it, Tylenol!
Thomas Jacob Sanford, 40, was identified as the shooter responsible for a mass shooting at The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Grand Blanc Township, Michigan, on Sunday, September 28, 2025. Sanford drove his pickup truck into the church, exited the vehicle, and opened fire with an assault rifle on congregants during a service. He also deliberately set fire to the church building. The shooting resulted in the deaths of at least two people, with several others injured. Sanford was killed by law enforcement officers in a shootout at the scene.
Sanford was a US Marine Corps veteran who served in Iraq from 2004 to 2008 and lived in Burton, Michigan. His vehicle was reportedly decorated with two large American flags, and social media posts suggest a possible Trump support sign at his residence, though these affiliations have not been officially confirmed by authorities. The motive for the attack remains under investigation, with searches conducted at his home and examination of his cellphone records. There were also reports of improvised explosive devices found near the church. The incident shocked the community, especially as it occurred shortly after the death of Russell M. Nelson, the longtime president of the church [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10].
Citations: [1] Thomas Sanford a Trump supporter? Big claim on ... https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/thomas-jacob-sanford-trump-supporter-michigan-grand-blanc-church-shooters-political-affiliation-democrat-or-republican-101759091935370.html [2] Who is Thomas Sanford? Michigan Mormon church ... https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/who-is-thomas-sanford-michigan-grand-blanc-mormon-church-shooting-suspect-identified-as-iraq-war-veteran-101759088332418.html [3] Iraq War veteran Thomas Sanford ID'd as gunman who ... https://nypost.com/2025/09/28/us-news/iraq-war-veteran-thomas-sanford-idd-as-gunman-who-attacked-grand-blanc-lds-church-killing-2-and-setting-it-ablaze/ [4] Police identify suspect in mass shooting at Grand Blanc ... https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2025/09/28/police-identify-suspect-in-mass-shooting-at-grand-blanc-township-church/ [5] Grand Blanc church shooting: What's known about ... https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/michigan-grand-blanc-church-shooting-suspect [6] Live updates: Church attack kills 2, injures 8; suspect ... https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/michigan-church-shooting-live-updates-rcna234221 [7] Photos emerge of truck decked out in American flags that ... https://nypost.com/2025/09/28/us-news/photos-emerge-of-truck-decked-out-in-american-flags-that-gunman-crashed-into-mormon-church-before-shooting/ [8] Live updates: Church shooting and fire in Grand Blanc ... https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/church-shooting-fire-michigan-09-28-25 [9] Two killed and eight injured as suspect named in Michigan ... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c62l7x0v5e5t [10] Suspect Identified in Shooting at Mormon Church in Michigan https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/breaking-suspect-identified-shooting-mormon-204305951.html
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The FBI is leading the investigation and considered it an “act of targeted violence,” said Ruben Coleman, a special agent in charge for the bureau.
Thank goodness it wasn’t a terrorist attack!
Maga on maga violence is trending in 2025.
And again, to the disappointment of the MAGA heads, it is one of theirs, not a leftie.
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Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer said in a statement that her heart was breaking for the community. “Violence anywhere especially in a place of worship, is unacceptable,” she said.
Governor Gretchen Whitmer pointedly declined to use the word “genocide” on a Sunday morning news show to describe the war in Gaza and the massive Palestinian civilian death toll as Israel tries to eliminate Hamas.
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Michigan has one of the nation’s largest Arab-American and Muslim-American populations.
“I’m watching this very closely and doing what I can to support all of these communities here in Michigan,” Whitmer said.
Huh.
So I guess it is acceptable, sometimes.
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Mormons have to realize maga evangelicals don't see them as christians and they're like #6 on MAGA's murder lists of targets.
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Thoughts and, ehem, prayers
Oh hell, I wonder if the guy that did this did it because the guy that helped Kirk achieve his objective was Mormon.
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