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[–] mosspiglet@discuss.online 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

why not both? I'm a formerly "gifted" child who is now an anxious adult with dozens of abandoned hobbies and unfinished projects. I'm also a doctor.

Me too! Got diagnosed with ADHD about 4-5 years ago. Somehow made it all the way through medical training white knuckling on anxiety and caffeine, lol. Vyvanse is much better.

"Im a doctor and I use lemmy"

Sir, exactly what kind of doctor are you?

[–] CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh, can definitely confirm. Also ADHD is often misdiagnosed by school faculty as "gifted but not reaching potential."

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 8 points 2 days ago

You are getting my upvote due to a lifetime of wasted potential

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I am the former. "You're so smart, you just don't apply yourself" is a sentence I have heard my whole damn life.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago

I feel rage at this

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The most autistic professional I've ever encountered was an anesthesiologist. He explained in an excited monotone every detail about how anesthesia works before a surgery I was scheduled to have. I cracked some dumb dad joke about counting backwards from 10 I think and he stood up and said "you're not taking this seriously, I'll return" and left. He eventually came back and asked if I was ready to continue. The nurse said "Yeah, he's serious".

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I was "academically gifted." Straight A student until middle school, put in a special "smart kid" class in elementary, and throughout high school breezed through without needing to, or ever learning how, to study properly. It bit me in the ass in college, nearly failed out my first semester.

Parentally, it meant nothing I ever did was good enough ("you're so smart you're stupid"), while my sister was cheered on and celebrated for barely making B and C grades. Led to pretty bad neurosis and a paralyzing obsession with doing things perfectly, which led for a long time to not doing them at all.

Nowadays I'm an IT engineer, consider myself smart enough (though not a genius), and my only real hobbies are reading, music (audiophile on a budget), gaming, and exercising. I occasionally watch anime or movies/TV, but rarely and wouldn't consider that a hobby. Haven't really abandoned any them, since they're the main things I enjoy (except some of the exercise can go to hell, but I need to do it for my health).

Turns out I was "gifted" with mild autism. Go figure. 😅

[–] relic__@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think a big divide for those that were listed as academically gifted were how their parents treated them.

I was basically "tier 2" gifted in that I was in the gifted programs, AP classes, honors, etc. I was a pretty solid B student and couldn't just cruise through class and get As, that took some effort.

I have what most people would see as a prestigious career in STEM, I know people that I went to HS with that doctors, researchers, etc. The key difference is that there was way less parental pressure. My parents (and the others I know that are successful) didn't get rewarded or punished for good grades. It was a more of a what you make of it situation. "You know you can do better than this B if you applied yourself, but we won't punish you for it". My parents gave me more freedom as I demonstrated responsibility. I never had video games taken away as a punishment. Never given money for good grades either.

In contrast, all those kids who had their parents up their ass (often out performing me) mostly went nowhere. Burnt out before hitting college, selecting "middle of the road" careers.

I think it boils down to motivation. All those parents suffocating those kids. The kids never build any intrinsic motivation. It's always driven by fear and reward for them. You need your own motivation to push through the "more challenging" career choices.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago

The kids never build any intrinsic motivation. It's always driven by fear and reward for them.

Oh sure, blame the deep seated flaws in our society.

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They can also be both. Successful career, but forever haunted by a fear of inadequacy that just won't go away.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 days ago

Sometimes it doesn't go away even if you spend 70% of your time at work goofing off and 30% being ultra productive to the point that no one notices.

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I recommend magic mushrooms.

[–] sprigatito_bread@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I was considered gifted. I was raised by parents who never showed me any affection, so I excelled in school because being praised by teachers was the only way for me to receive positive attention from a caregiver figure. I ended up crashing after high school and had to do the long, arduous work of treating my deep-seated psychological trauma. I ended up developing an autoimmune disease when I turned 18, likely from the chronic stress, but it's infinitely better than constantly ruminating about how nobody will ever love me unless I get an A++ in every class. I am suffering decidedly less these days.

[–] Saprophyte@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

This was written by a doctor making assumptions about people who didn't become doctors. I grew up in gifted classes all through elementary and high school, and have a challenging and rewarding career. I have a handful of hobbies that I keep up with until I lose interest and find new ones.

This is a stereotype which tries to find people living on the niche extremes to make fun of what the author feels is their inadequacy compared to his own circumstances.

[–] savvywolf@pawb.social 6 points 2 days ago

I got upset earlier today because some of my friends were better at sodokus than me. I'm supposed to be the smart socially inept one. Don't take my smarts away. ;_;

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In the trans community this can manifest in the "gifted kid burnout to trans girl with a praise kink pipeline," which is where a lot of the Programmer Socks community posts come from.

...I don't use Arch btw. I'm too scared of mutable OS's for that.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I see an anti-correlation amoung the ~20 PhDs I trained over the years. I now only accept B students after a careful interview.

My biggest problem with Med students is how they lie, manipulate and game the system. Is this really who we want treating us or disease?

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s really about knowing how to navigate the system. Need a family rich enough so that you don’t have to work to support yourself so you can scribe and volunteer, need to know what classes count for medical school admission, start prepping for MCAT and gaming that…

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

I have trained MD PhDs, and they do not fit that narrative. These people are gifted and work hard. But that is a handful within any med class.

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

We have liars and manipulators as political leaders, liars and manipulators as spiritual leaders, why not liars and manipulators as health leaders? (/s)

[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Every person who wants to get a job does that, not only medics.

[–] MML@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Not medical but I don't know a single person who passed the courses I took who did not cheat, which is great to find out after failing many times.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

hobbies aren't abandoned, just done in cycles as there isn't enough time for them all all of the time

I don't go crazy over mistakes, but they do bother me quite a bit

solidly in between, I'd say

[–] flyingSock@feddit.org 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

or end up stressed post docs with a lot of discarded hobbies and scientific projects

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 6 points 3 days ago

Post docs count as docs!

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] flyingSock@feddit.org 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

its not as bad as it sounds. But it is the other side of the coin of academic freedom. You can do what you want, but that just means i end up wanting to do everything and then of course failing to finish evreything. But i have learned the solution is to find collaborators, and to accept that some things will simply not get done. The only problem is that the things that do not get done are sometimes important, even if they are not the most interesting (such as filing travel reimbursement forms). TL:DR no worries but do think carefully before going for a phd, there is very little external structure

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I think we’d have more doctors.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can disconfirm. I dive in completely, obsessing over a hobby until I meet my desired skill level, then drop it almost completely and move to the next thing. Some stuff gets rolled into my routine but I stop thinking about it at all, just following whatever skill/method I learned when I was obsessed.

I have also figured out how to use this superpower at work to root cause problems, implement solutions that sustain themselves, and never think about it again.

I do have a long list of hobbies I want to try, but I don’t actually try them until I finish obsessing over the last one.

[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

You should work to cause root problems instead. Chaos is fun

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I practice self-love but otherwise yes

[–] Oisteink@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

It’s a joke. I can see how both types exist, but they are like extremes on a spectrum, and most are between these two

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The Japanese rap duo Creepy Nuts made a song about this. It’s in Japanese but the YouTube video has English subtitles so you can at least read what they’re basically saying. It’s called “To Us Former Prodigies.” I’m still waiting for iOS 26 to roll out the advertised “translate lyrics” feature (it’s there but can’t be tapped), but in the meantime a bunch of these modern Japanese songs have official English translations on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/_dAzUOzWvrk

I feel like it’s a song about me, written by guys who probably couldn’t communicate directly with me (nor I with them). Though supposedly if we’re both wearing AirPods we can understand each other? Not sure if that’s real or just more smoke and mirrors from Apple, seems to be a common theme with them the last couple years.

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[–] bss03 3 points 2 days ago

Well, I wasn't a doctor, but I was a programmer well on my way to becoming upper-middle class, maybe even Capital instead of Labor.

But, for reasons probably largely unrelated to how neurotypical I may (or may not) be, that's been "on hold" for some years and I'm not sure I'll be able to get back "on track".

I doubt that's a useful datapoint, and I probably shouldn't even post this.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure this is something every kid gets told. Ive yet to meet a person who wasnt the gifted kid.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In the U.S. they are separate classes. Like there was normal classes, honors classes, and gifted classes. Which has its own problems because some of the gifted students often were socially awkward. So someone parents would ask to get their students with mixed schedules, like some gifted classes and then some honors.

I only took honors classes but knew a lot of the gifted kids because sometimes they just mixed the classes. AP classes weren't a thing until grades 11 and 12. So really like in my elementary school there was 2000 students, and maybe 50-60 kids were in gifted classes. (Meaning they couldn't make up a full 30 kid class)

So even though I took classes like AP Calculus, Macro Economic, Physics, and European History and places very well like scoring at least a 4 on all those exams which would put me in the top 3% or so of students.. I never took gifted classes.

Maybe it's different in different areas

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well this describes me to a tee.

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

We're very proud of you Doctor Here.

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago

yes. spot on.

[–] rrrurboatlibad@lemdro.id 4 points 2 days ago

I was and now am both. Confirmed

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure this is something every kid gets told. Ive yet to meet a person who wasnt the gifted kid.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I have, and it includes a few of my cousins. The others, the booksmart ones, were told how smart they were regularly, and we're the ones with degrees.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Ask my siblings they hated coming after me as teachers compared them to me.

[–] Shanedino@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I'm an engineer, no doctorate. My wife is the flip side going for PhD now.

Feel like I'd be somewhere between. Still have had people who say they think I'm some sort of super-genius. So I guess I'm somehow now an "academically gifted" adult? But I still struggle with some basic parts of my job (like dealing with the stuff on my desk next to me I've been ignore for hours to stroll here).

[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I was the dumb kid in school so why did I still end up with anxiety?🤷‍♀️

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