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Expecting heavy industry greenwashing of this (infosec.pub)

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[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm all for public transit, but I will mention for the sake of honesty, Paul Weyrich, the creator of the Heritage Foundation had a bizarre fixation on trains from an early age.

Government funding for basically anything else related to common public good was forbidden, but for some reason trains were like his one "thing" he believed the government should fund.

Moving Minds: Conservatives and Public Transportation

So I'm all for public transit, but I would still demand public accountability. We deserve to know exactly who is profiting from any publicly funded projects.

Edit: He wrote a lot, and frequently found a way to sneak something about his public transportation fetish in just about everything he wrote (even somehow in a blog post shitting on New Orleans days after Katrina), but this is probably one of my favorite takes:

Bring Back the Streetcars! A Conservative Vision of Tomorrow’s Urban Transportation

What’s Right with This Picture?

Everything. It is a fine summer day in New Westminster, British Columbia, in the year 1909. Car 39 has stopped briefly on Park Row on its way into town. It carries its passengers through a world that is ordered, serene, at peace. Their eyes feast upon the glories of Queen Anne architecture. They hear the birds and the trolley wire sing a duet in an ether as yet unpolluted by engine noise or boom boxes. Their poised servants, the motorman and conductor of the car, stand as visible assurances of responsibility and reliability. God is in His Heaven and all is right with the world.

🤣 This would be so hilarious if we weren't all watching the U.S. being torn apart as a direct result of his life's work.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

We deserve to know exactly who is profiting from any publicly funded projects.

i'm not familiar with that information being hidden

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

also a 2nd hand ICE car is more sustainable than a new EV

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[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (4 children)

What if I'd be the only one sitting in the bus on the way to work Monday through Friday?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Sounds like the build out of the transit hubs was bungled.

I've seen this happen once or twice in Houston. Tiny lines that go nowhere and are spun up just so municipal government leaders can say "This doesn't work! Build more highways instead!" Our new "Silver Line" is a great example. It was supposed to be a spoke within a larger spoke/wheel build out, but the state sabotaged roll out of the rest of the network.

Meanwhile, we've got a commuter rail line down Main Street (built back in 2012 for the Olympic bid) that's the third most utilized in the country, just because it gets you into downtown without fighting traffic choke points.

The difference in usage is Night and Day.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (16 children)

While I agree that we need a national public works project worth of new modern trains.

Anyone who says stuff like this should be forced to drive 10 hours across the US first.

Anywhere to anywhere. Drive for 10 hours. Then plot your completed course on a map of the lower 48. Just to demonstrate how monstrously fucking huge this country is. So they understand that while trains are amazing. They aren't the panacea some seem to think.

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[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hybrid cars are up there, too. Range anxiety was solved more than 20 years ago by the Toyota Prius. Look it up

[–] nekbardrun@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Serious question: What about Alcohol cars?

I get it that there would be a need to develop better motors to run on alcohol alone and that alcohol's output is lower than gasoline but at least the first part is solvable in the same way that diesel motors got better over time (spending money on R&D).

I ask this because, here in Brazil, Lula tried to implement pure alcohol cars back in his first or second term but faced some backlash both because we didn't had the necessary tech to make good alcohol motors and from a lot of other reasons (one which is probably to be petrol companies fucking the project to keep their gains, which although sounds conspirational, may also be true since it is patently obvious that petrol companies lobbyed against climate change measures).

Also, as long as we don't fuck up the soil by mismanagement, it will be almost carbon neutral in emission since all CO2 output was used to grow plants, which is different from using petrol that needs millions of years to be put back under a rock deep down the soil.

I'd even risk to say that it could even be a net-positive(?) carbon capture since the fiber from sugar cane (for brasil's case) is captured carbon that could be used to fertilize the soil back again.

But I don't think we will see a resurgence of alcohol based cars because, as it seems, it failed here on Brazil and oil companies' greed definitivelly aren't the only reason for that (though I believe it played a smal to medium role)

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Come to my mind, for a while back in the nineties and two-thousands, there was a push to abandon those dirty public transportation devices like buses and trains in favor of biking, walking, etc., but it mainly ended with people switching to cars. Maybe there was some industry push.

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