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To be fair, this somehow seems slightly less fascist than the "launch another crusade to retake the holy land for Christians" take

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[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This actually seems more fascist, claw hands are a classic in antisemitic carricatures.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago

Achievement Unlocked: True Antisemitism.

(Palestinians are semitic too)

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (4 children)

What the fuck? Lol why are greeks claiming ownership of the levant?

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago

They're looking at the shores with that thousand island stare.

[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The Seleucid Empire is back baby.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

Bashar al-Assad is known in some circles as Antiochus CCXL Leones assad-must-stay

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Alexander the Great was born in modern day Greece (Central Macedonia, which is a province of Greece, not to be confused with North Macedonia, a sovereign nation to the north of Central Macedonia).

He conquered the Levant from... I wanna say the Assyrians? Whichever powers that be that expelled the Jews. Despite the fact that Alexander conquered everything from Greece to India by the age of 30, he died at the age of 32, the empire collapsed, fell to in fighting, etc. He only ruled for 7 years.

Look I'm not going to try and go into the logic of ultranationalists since it's inherently illogical, Greeks having a claim to the Levant by way of conquest over 2,000 years ago is extremely tenuous. No-one, including Greece, wants a Greek Levant.

[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Alexander the Great conquered the Levant from the Achaemenid Empire and his successors in Egypt (The Ptolemaic Kingdom) and Persia (The Seleucid Empire) held the area for 300 years

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

I think it's more the Byzantine Empire which held it a fair bit longer.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i would contend they're on about the Roman Empire more than hellenistic times. last time Romans were in the Levant they were speaking greek, and greeks called themselves roman a long time after the Ottomans ate them.

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah tbh it's a mostly weird idea to call the Roman Empire and Romans anything but Roman. Only half the country broke apart, a millennium and a half before the rest of it all did - so what if the first half to collapse contained the one-time capital that they got the name from. The Greeks spent like a thousand years as the imperial core of the Roman Empire, called Romans by everyone, and it doesn't take that long to update terminology. "Byzantine" was only used to describe Eastern Rome after it collapsed. They were still often called Roman until the 20th century, when the more popular Hellenes finally pushed it out completely, after becoming more and more popular for several centuries, as Roman had acquired a connotation of being politically subservient to the Ottoman Empire. For a while "romans" mostly referred to people from Istanbul.

[–] beautiful_boater@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Look, we need a one state solution! Bring back the Seleucid Empire!

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

Surely a renewed Timurid empire would fix this

[–] citrussy_capybara@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Is this the 3 state solution for tourism that one person posted about?
Maybe could fit like 10 states in there and tourism would soar.

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

Communicate with Alexander the Great himself with a ouija board!

[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The 3 states are the big 3 diadochi states, Egypt, Persia/Seleucia and Macedonia.

[–] Teekeeus@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

one (hellenistic) state solution

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

last time the greeks ran things down there they didn't let jews inside jerusalem, i predict a lot of tolerance

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I may be mistaken but I think this is satire. I've seen the same picture with the Greek flag replaced with Albanian, Croatian, Irish, and Argentinian flags

[–] Teekeeus@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

I think it's a variation of this meme