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[–] Tychoxii@hexbear.net 79 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In cyberpunk 2077 doing jobs for the police gives you "street cred" lmao

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Would have been way more punk to make those mini encounters "Gang Fights" or something, with the NCPD being just another gang.

Major disconnect since they make the NCPD a bunch of corrupt assholes that basicly run a protection racket but then you do gigs for them like you're on Uber Cop.

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I've said it before, but I think the NCPD subcontractor thing was come up with as just a narrative device to diegetically explain flagging miniature world events/quests in your hud that got implemented and then wasn't really thought about after that, because there are lots of them where they really don't make sense to be a police bounty contract. Like there are several flagged encounters that are corporate security forces who just executed one or more people (and you get a payout from the system for killing the licensed security forces who were acting lawfully as far as the hellworld's system is concerned), in at least one case there's a gang that was tipped off by the police themselves about a detective's CI, etc all being folded into that system.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 64 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I thought this was making fun of those alleged notes found in manufactured goods from China. But yeah, good chance CDPR meant it unironically.

[–] citrussy_capybara@hexbear.net 74 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Was written by a CDPR dev during crunch that was tied to a desk, then a manager found out and swapped a couple words out.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago

"Please President Xi, my video game yearns for more QA time."

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago (1 children)

DAE BOTH SIDES BAD. That is why you should stop trying to improve society somewhat and instead Become A Legend Of Night City(tm) so-true

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Cyberpunk (the Genre), 1988: "Capitalism and rapid progress in technology are driving us to a dystopian society"

Cyberpunk, 2023: Whoa cool neon lights

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Cyberpunk, 2023: Whoa cool neon lights

Also 2023: "Behold! I am financing the construction of the Torment Nexus, as seen in the hit novel Please Don't Build The Torment Nexus!" lord-bezos-amused

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

First as tragedy, then as farce...

[–] TheWorldSpins@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Funny self own on any anti-Communist devs that put this in, the Soviet Union abandoned Communism in the 1990s. Even killed off the true believers, they just kept the name.

E: This wiki entry is super reactionary, dont read past the first paragraph.

[–] Vode_An@lemmy.ml 54 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You can tell that wiki entry was written by an anti communist. A brainworm wriggled out of my phone and is currently trying to crawl into my eye.

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago

It's always Polish writers with an adolescent knowledge of social studies who try to break the fourth wall and explain why communism is wrong in lore for media that otherwise barely relates to communism

[–] TheWorldSpins@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

For real? Just seemed like alt-history lore delving, but I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed. shrek

I hate gamers.

[–] Vode_An@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ctrl-f Lenin on the page. That section is wild.

[–] TheWorldSpins@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Holy crappy guacamole, lmao. I just skimmed the fate of the soviet union. This article sucks ass.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago

the Soviet Corporate Rebellion of 2002

Cursed.

[–] lurkerlady@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (1 children)

tbf if youre reading anything from the nusa you probably should be put in a work camp, its america but worse somehow

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)

its america but worse somehow

Counterpoint: it's a balkanized failed state that's lost ground to all of its neighbors. It's worse inside but it's lost the ability to be nearly as bad as the real USA.

Which is what makes this so funny: in Cyberpunk's setting the US ate absolute shit and collapsed while the USSR became a tepid liberal social democracy instead of being couped by Yeltsin, so the shard only makes sense as a prank like when dipshits try to write notes about "forced labor" in chinese and pretend they found them in a shoebox that actually came from Bangladesh or the like. It was probably snuck in by some chud writer, because there seems to have been little to no oversight to consistency with all the little random text blurbs scattered throughout the game, but it does make no sense in context: the NUSA's a failed state and the USSR is liberal.

Wait, fuck, what kind of "books" would come from a dying ancap state and get someone life in prison in a functional state? It suddenly makes sense if one assumes they were importing libertarian-alert XBDs or the like.

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Yea the game politics is all over the place. I'm happy that the NUSA President turned out not to be a good person.

[–] ProfessorAdonisCnut@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago

Still weird to me that you never seemed to be able to take a "NC is independent, whose president do you think you are here?" line.

[–] Moonguide@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah. Like, Johnny had some good points all throughout the game. V even was a victim of corpo supreme power (sure he stole the tech and put it in his noggin, but still). Yet V defends the status quo mocking Johnny's anticapitalist thought in many convos. Wish V was less lib. Of all people, he has a good reason to hate the status quo.

[–] Deadend@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Johnny is not anti-capital, he’s a selfish dick who hurts and wants to hurt the world. He just likes the big targets like corps.

[–] Moonguide@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, maybe, but he still got a couple good points. And V has nothing but lib takes.

[–] KarlBarqs@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Johnny doesn't have points, he has tepid, baby's first anticapitalism talking points. He rants about how capitalism bad, corporations bad, but it doesn't go deeper than that.

[–] Moonguide@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

And even to that V objects to

[–] TraumaDumpling@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

that's just not true, sure his major act of adventurism was largely motivated by his girlfriend issues, but he constantly rants about how he saw corporations take peoples land and kidnap child soldiers and how his main goal is to defeat the corporations more than anything else like survival or wealth or fame or whatever. like sure maybe he needs to read theory but calling him "a selfish dick who hurts and wants to hurt the world" is the lamest possible take i could expect to see on a leftist website lol. i wish more 'selfish dicks' like him would nuke more corporate offices.

[–] lurkerlady@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

spoiler for the dlc

spoilertechnically they are threatening the whole world with a wmd that would kill anyone using cybernetics, so actually worse than threatening people with nukes and bombs because its essentially an instant professor x aneurysm

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Punk is when you spread USA state propaganda about the USSR

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago

I keep hearing conservatism is the new punk and it's making the liberals nervous shapiro-poplar

[–] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Finding this in the game pissed me off too

[–] lurkerlady@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

the writing is all over the place on the USSR. they have stuff like this but also mention they have actual good food and healthcare. they do also have plenty of ACAB mixed in with you fellating a president no matter what option you choose, even though johnny calls her a fascist you cant just agree with him

[–] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

Yeah the writing is sus af so far

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not surprising at all though. When I went to Poland, I found that a lot of polish people feel a deep disapproval towards Russia and Communism, based on the bad time they (or at least their parents) had, during the russian occupation of Poland.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago

Maybe it's a Nigerian prince scam sort of thing?

Oh who am I kidding yea

[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago

This sounds like Russian propaganda to me. Believing that things are actually bad in the fictional version of Poland presented in a few scattered text files in the game Cyberpunk 2077 would be playing right into Putler's hands. People who actually listen to both sides and are able to see through the Russian troll bots understand that things in pretend future Poland are actually going pretty well. They are a democracy and a part of the international rules based order.

[–] macabrett@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't know if it helps, but I'm pretty positive the USSR in Cyberpunk is different than the real USSR. It also had communism collapse and is essentially run by an oil corporation (and then later by oligarchs).

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

i mean that's the usual way socialism is framed in capitalist media. "Whenever you try it, it's just capitalism, but worse!"

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"Socialism doesn't work because a small number of elites hoard resources and sabotage society to further their own self-interest." smuglord solidarity lord-bezos-amused

[–] macabrett@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Yeah... I'm pretty sick of capitalist realism in media.