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Centrist Democrats like Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom seem to think the best way to disparage Donald Trump is to highlight his departures from free-market orthodoxy. Good luck with that.

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 6 points 3 hours ago

No she doesn't. She was trolling him. A bunch of terminally online leftists caught strays, but I promise you they weren't a real consideration.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 21 points 5 hours ago

Someone had a reading comprehension failure.

Do better, Jacobin.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 65 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

in my opinion, It's the same bullshit she pulled during the election. She's trying to appeal to the other side by using one of their buzzwords instead of backing up the people that actually want to support her. It's literally yelling at a brick wall at this point.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe I'm missing it in the article, but I'm not seeing that Harris ever said Trump is a communist. She said he's a tyrant and that we used to compare our leaders to communist leaders, but I didn't see her ever actually call him or really even insinuate that he's a communist. I could have missed the quote or maybe the quote was not included.

[–] 5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.org 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

We used to compare the strength of our democracy to communist dictators. That’s what we’re dealing with right now in Donald Trump. And these titans of industry are not speaking up!

English is not my first language, but according to this quote, she seems to call him a „communist dictator“

The thing she's doing is comparing him to dictators, Communist is kind of a passing flag. The huge stupidity of the statement is expectations that the "titans of industry"would speak up. They always do, through her, the DNC, as well as the entirety of the GOP. Titans of industry always play both sides & let us wallow in the division & chaos.

If she hadn't sold out, she could have checked the votes & found she had won (were it not for Elon's "handling"of swing states'votes).

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Who cares what a cop thinks her political career is dead she should just go away already.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 73 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

When will they learn that fascism is the marriage of corporation and state. Stop using "communism" as a boogeyman, nobody under 50 takes you seriously for saying it.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 29 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (4 children)

and my new philosophy is fuck corporations. any and all of them. I want nothing they make, I refuse to consume and have chosen to purposely live with nothing except my guitar. I am letting everything I own stay broken when it breaks and I refuse to replace it.

companies are liars, thieves and fraudsters. I refuse to give them the light of day or care about anything they say/claim/want to sell.

I'm done. you can find me under a big tree in a park, with a physical book that I bought at a garage sale from a neighbour, and a guitar at the ready.

tldr; screw modern society and whatever the hell this is now. I refuse to participate

[–] Gnugit@aussie.zone 9 points 6 hours ago

I'm with you, I'll be in my garden growing vegetables.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

that's a lot of reading, I'll read it after I'm finished digging my hobbit hole in a forest somewhere.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 hours ago

I’m with you. You can still have nice-ish stuff though. Buy second-hand and buy from small companies/independent sellers, they’re not usually evil.

[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

My man, for the love of God, just steal it instead if you're pissed about corporate duplicity and greed. What are you going to do when your shoes wear out, wrap poorly-tanned game hides around your feet like some Cro-Mangnon cobbler?

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'll deal with that when I get there... I've stopped buying generic shoes from 95% of stores be sure they require replacing in less then a year. my last pair were substantially more but actual quality and have lasted me going on 4 years now.

why does it bother you that I feel everything is so screwed up and I want no part of it. let it all crash imo... I'm done being a pawn for someone else

I refuse to consume and have chosen to purposely live with nothing except my guitar. I am letting everything I own stay broken when it breaks and I refuse to replace it.

You're maybe misunderstanding me slightly, it's difficult to covey tone via text. It's not that it bothers me, it's that you're not Diogenes, who had a difficult enough time of what you're proposing in the 4th cen. B.C.. If you hate corpos like a lot of us, completely withdrawing from general societal activities isn't sticking it to them, they're already losing the profits gained from the business of people who they're ruining by driving into poverty, or those who boycott them, and are largely unaffected by it.

It's a moral & philosophical decision, I get it, but you're not having an effect on them or their bottom line anymore than someone breaking their hands by pounding on a stone wall. Living in self-imposed deprivation will likely have the same effect on you as anyone else who's had it imposed on them, which is to say that it will endanger you and your overall health in a potentially significant way by shaving decades off it in a worst case scenario.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Off topic, but I think it's funny that the cutoff for a more modern worldview ends at 50 now, because all the older millennials are well into their 40s now and we have to include them because they were a main driving force behind "occupy" movement 14 years ago.

10 years ago you saw "under 40" being thrown around. 😂

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Lol am elder millennial around 40, how could you guess?

I have lots of Gen X friends who are lifelong allies too. But a lot of folks over 50 are still living in the Cold War.

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 31 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

It feels like everyone is focusing too hard on that one word: communist. To me it's very clear the sentiment behind what she said was that Trump is acting exactly like the dictatorial leaders of the communist nations that America has been fighting against and villainizing for the last 50 years: the USSR, north Korea, communist China, etc.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 24 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah when asked if she thought he was fascist, she responded "you could say that".

Anyone who thinks she was calling him communist in these statements is intentionally looking for something to be mad about. The lady isn't even running for anything, and likely never will again.

She thinks Trump is a tyrant.
These comments started on Fox/News Max, then I saw them make their way into Hexbear, to ML and now being posted here. Seems the Left and Right agree that it's best fight centrists to ensure the status quo stays in power.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 6 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Kamala is the status quo, so is the DNC.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Harris is a has-been and in this case a distraction.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 4 hours ago

Absolutely. She's aiming to replace HRC, and never keep silent.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 1 points 4 hours ago

Seems to me that the main problem is she needs to stop mincing her words. "You could say that" ?! Be definite, woman!

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 hours ago

Someone read the article.

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

She is really trying to look like a clown, isn’t she?

Well at least she is throwing away any chance of her running again

[–] cattywampas@midwest.social 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

She was never gonna run again. She was an unpopular candidate to begin with, and only ran because there was no other option. Biden and the Democrats really fucked us over.

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 hours ago

The democrats have been running unpopular candidates the past 3 elections, Biden only got in because of how poorly managed Covid was. I have no faith in the democrats to run a not dogshit candidate ever

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 5 points 6 hours ago

Makes sense though. They elected a clown last time.

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 6 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

He IS acting like a communist dictator.

[–] november@piefed.blahaj.zone 19 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The key word there is "dictator", not "communist".

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 hours ago

Seems to me that's the emphasis she gave it too. Her point was that Trump is a tyrant, not that he is a communist.

[–] chiocciola@lemmy.cafe 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Nothing communist about him.

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

There wasn't much pure communism in Russia either, but that's what we call it.

[–] chiocciola@lemmy.cafe 1 points 4 hours ago

No, we called the USSR communist. After the USSR dissolved in 1991, Russia became an independent country, the Russian Federation, with a different political and economic system.

A better comparison would be China, who does claim to be communist—yet has next to zero to do with actual communism (‘socialist’ market economy mixed with authoritarianism)

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Authoritarianism and communism/socialism are two different things.

No shit, but the actual real life communist dictators didn't exactly follow the ideology now did they?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

I mean, he wants government ownership of Intel and TikTok... so it's not 100% insane. :)

[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Centrist Democrats like Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom seem to think the best way to disparage Donald Trump is to highlight his departures from free-market orthodoxy. Good luck with that.

Siloed much? LMAO, this was their (ironic use intended) Trump card to scuttle him? American Democrats need to take a walk out and speak with people a little less connected to their own news feed, this is ridiculous, some prime political policy inbreeding if I do say so. How in the fuck was this the best that they could produce?

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Real actual Fascists are actively dismantling our systems of government and eroding our rights and freedoms. Why the fuck should anyone care what Kamala Harris did or in this case definitely didn't say? The media should be reporting on the actual criminals in power and y'all need to stop letting them distract you with pure fluff. And OP I hope you're getting well paid for being a shill for the right, because other conservative shills are getting millions from Russia, so don't sell yourself short.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Harris is irrelevant and is pulling eyes away from the actual criminal running our country into the ground. Hope that helps.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 4 points 6 hours ago

When all you read is Jacobin and WSWS, your mind gets warped.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Every time she opens her mouth, a tankie smugly smiles at my liberal ass and says "told you so."

UGH!!!

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

At least between her already failing in a presidential bid and terminal lack of charisma, we probably don't have to worry about her running again.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 2 points 5 hours ago

They're obviously going to run Hillary Clinton again

[–] chiocciola@lemmy.cafe -2 points 5 hours ago

Jfc Kammy, die politically with grace, not by accusing people of being commies.