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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 7 points 35 minutes ago

This entire thing has been made needlessly complicated. Easy fix though.

  1. Get whatever ebook you want.
  2. Borrow some code from GitHub and teach a raspberry pi with a camera and a few servos to snap pictures of pages, turn the pages, snap again into a PDF.
  3. A script then parses all the images and OCRs them for the final PDF.
  4. You now own a backup of your DRM book, which you own forever. Pretty sure this is actually legal under DMCA since you are taking a backup of something you allegedly own. The encryption circumvention is irrelevant.
  5. now, break the law and throw the PDF on the internet to everyone. Go little bot! Go go go!
[–] BoloMKXXVIII@piefed.social 8 points 1 hour ago

Why are people "buying" DRM infested books? They don't own anything. "Their" books can be taken away at the whim of the seller. Their rights can change with a change to the EULA. There are other legal ways to use e-readers (not Kindles) that let you keep and back up what you buy.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 17 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know why people buy an stuff like this and get surprised when this happens.

Plenty of other electronics that you have full control over.

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

I am honestly surprised it took this long! Kindle has been around a long time and it's not like Amazon was any less evil back then. It makes me wonder if the competition has been starting to make them nervous!

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 28 points 3 hours ago

amazon: finally we defeated piracy

one kid with a computer: snickers

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 hours ago
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

So they encrypt it via keys they download to protected storage. I hope their market share will tank after a few public outrages. Make sure you're not one of the victims.

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 50 points 5 hours ago

Why not just remove the Amazon from the ebooks?

[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 85 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I will never, ever purchase a book I can't remove the DRM from.

And there are people out there who are absolutely fanatical about book preservation. They will photograph every single page and run it through OCR and recreate an ebook just so it gets preserved. DRM is absolutely pointless and stupid.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly this. As an idiot I purchase DRM music when Microsoft had its own music store. Some years later they closed it and there was no way to validate music keys.

But thankfully I still have an old Roxio9( I think) CD, and back then Roxio didn't know what DRM was and would take the mp3 and burn it to DVD anyway, bypassing the key check, then I would just rip it back off the DVD...DRM is useless

[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

For real.

When I still had Netflix and Disney+ I'd want to watch a show on my PC, but I'd just get black screen with only audio, because something about my setup the DRM didn't like. (Possibly that I have USB displaylink monitors.)

So I had to watch on another device.

DRM isn't stopping content being ripped. It's just making life a pain for paying customers.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Offering a clean, ad free, usable storefront to purchase media would do more to prevent piracy than anything.

But corpos dont like that.

[–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 1 points 45 minutes ago (1 children)

Of course. It's all about control. They see users as property, an object to be sold and traded.

Do not ever allow yourselves to be disrespected like this.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 minutes ago

Try explaining any of this to my friends lol. Obsessed with Google, the tok, xitter, and shitty data stealing llms. Disgusting garbage.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That could've been iTunes if their interface didn't suck ass and if they didn't go for the subscription-only model in Apple Music.

I swear for years it was THE place to buy music. I mean I never did, I didn't have access to a card with online payments enabled as a teen, so I just pirated everything anyway. But it seemed like the default place.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago

I was so out of the loop a few years ago I found out they killed iTunes and was like WHY. idiotic.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago

Remember to pay your local pirate.

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 40 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

There’s no such thing as “impossible” when it comes to piracy.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

There's no impossible because if you can see it, it can be captured and digitized, but there is a level of complication that can make it unreasonable. They could make it unreasonable to crack the drm outright and require you to screenshot/OCR it. Then they can limit the OS to make to difficult to automate capture.

Bottom line, they're just kicking payers off their network when it's easier to pirate it than to buy it through their service.

[–] EffortlessEffluvium@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The analog hole works on a lot of stuff

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

That's my post apoc Youtube plan. Play on a sanctioned browser with videos and use comskip, write them off to my storage.

We're going back to my TV->AVI setup from 2003, only maybe we'll use HVEC this time.

[–] czl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Something something, piracy is a service problem. That’s why Spotify et al. still thrive, but more and more the Netflixes of the world are being replaced with yaaar

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

It's also a pricing issue as well.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

but there is a level of complication that can make it unreasonable.

Lol, just read the Arch Wiki about Bluray playing. Unreasonable only needs a bit longer.

Especially engineering people get creative out of interest if they're denied access. And that's a beautiful thing.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

MakeMKV is in AUR :) Sure, it's not playing a disk...

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

require you to screenshot/OCR it

So just like what people do with paper books.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

What GOOGLE did WITHOUT PERMISSION to paper books. ;)

I've imaged a few short books with a cellphone and page correction software.

It takes dedication to make a pleasant final product. But those vacuum book scanners are freaking amazing.

[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

Just wait until you can only stream books, not download them, with random words replaced with synonyms using an algorithm that lets them track down who the originator of any scanned copies is.

That might sound ridiculous, but streaming-only to prevent perfect copies and hiding purchaser identifiers in the data are both DRM techniques that have been explored in other media already. There's no limit to how anti-consumer publishers can get when they think there's slightly more money to be had.

[–] sailorzoop@lemmy.librebun.com 5 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

Are there any good "open" alternatives to the Paperwhite? I've been drooling over getting an e-ink reader for like a month straight now. https://kindlemodding.org/jailbreaking/kindle-models.html
Most of the current models can be jailbroken, but I'd definitely rather another route. (Not having to deal with checking second-hand market seller's firmware versions etc)

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 14 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (3 children)

Wait, can't you just load non-Amazon books on the Kindle? I thought this is only about the ability to redistribute books you buy from Amazon.

I mean I'd still sure like to hear if there's a good alternative. But if not, I think you can still use it, just don't buy Amazon books for it. Recommend researching first though.

Edit: I found a company called Kobo. 6 and 7 inch colour models available, as well as 6, 8, 10 inch black and white models. Marketing for the 6" Clara Colour model claims good repairability and iFixit seems to agree. And yes, the colour ones are still e-ink.

[–] edgesmash@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

I second the Kobo. Bought one when my old kindle died, no regrets.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You sure can.

I've used calibre in the past.

[–] Prox@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I just use a USB cable. No extra software required.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

I use Calibre with a USB cable. Calibre is great if you do a lot of reading or manage a lot of books.

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[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I only read books uploaded through calibre

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

PocketBook if you want openness and long runtime (book-replacement), it runs plain Linux.

Kobo/Onyx if you want Android flexibility, with possibility to flash LineageOS/PostmarketOS (though they're slow for tablet use).

But personally, if you're not using it to transcript notes (recommendation Remarkable) or want more than merely reading books, i would go with a tablet.

[–] Luckaneer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago

Pocketbook readers are pretty nice

[–] Jeremyward@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

I have a super note, which is an eink tablet, reader, it's quite nice and drm free but a bit pricey.

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 23 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Amazon can go suck a fuck!

[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

How exactly does one suck a fuck?

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[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 45 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

I've been slowly filling my wife's Kindle Oasis full of pirated books over the last 2 years. I got it initially because it had internet service everywhere and I could just email her the epubs to simplify loading things.

A couple of weeks ago, even though airplane mode is always on for this thing, (so no wifi either) -- this thing wipes something like 400 books from her library overnight. Granted, they were all pirated, but they're doing some nasty stuff there. It looks like there's renewed effort to combat this.

Sooooo, I sold it and bought her a Kobo Libra Color. Now, I just have her open up https://send.djazz.se/ -- give me the 4 digit code, and I can upload books to her that way. Goodbye Amazon. Don't let the door hit you.

[–] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 8 points 5 hours ago (6 children)

Cannot recommend Kobo enough. You can jailbreak it if you like, but I didn't get much benefit from that personally. I'm partial to the overdrive integration, but if you're loading epubs you probably aren't using that. If in the US, I'd recommend at least setting it up, since it's pretty easy and maybe more immediate for some books, but obviously she won't get to keep the epub after.

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