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Why did you give it network access, you dumb cu-. Actually, never mind that: Why didn't you just buy a washing machine? You know, a machine that washes things.
Bought a new dishwasher for my parents a couple of months ago and every single available model (at the store) had wifi/app connectivity. I could turn it off but there's no "simple" devices available. Some of them require the app to set the machine up or at least make it harder to do without it. I mean a washing machine needs to be emptied relatively quick after it finishes washing so I at least see some use to a notification but a dishwasher? Fuck that.
Why would it need to be emptied quick?
I usually set mine to work overnight (when power's cheaper) and take it out in the morning. Makes air drying outside more convenient as well, since it maximizes solar availability.
Not to mention, my machine is chugging along perfectly fine. 26 years and counting.
In which f*ssil country is power cheaper at night!?
Aren't spot price electricity contracts available in the US (I assume)?
As far as I remember this was debunked and came down to faulty measuring? cabling? Nothing nefarious anyways
What was the actual amount? Importantly, was it more than 0?
Importantly, was it more than 0?
Exactly. doG, I dread the time when even used goods won't be available without IoT BS.
No argument there 😁
Who buys a washing machine with WiFi?
Nearly everyone now? About every f-ing thing with a cable (and sometimes without) comes with wifi to call home nowadays. There are toothbrushes with app-support!
Finding a reasonably modern appliance without apps and network is getting harder by the day. Sometimes you can leave the wifi unconfigured, but then you often miss a lot of functionality. Sometimes even core functionality.
Like I said in another comment, I had no problem finding a decent machine a year ago. My basement where it's located doesn't even have a signal.
I also never heard about tooth brushed with apps, I know it is an extreme example made by you, but I doubt there comes a point where you can't buy normal tooth brushed anymore.
I know enshittification is hitting hard these times, but there are still enough alternatives if you look out for them. Screens and internet in fridges and stuff like that I only know from Lemmy, never have seen that in the real world. I an based in the EU, but I think (hope) it's similar in the US.
I also never heard about tooth brushed with apps, I know it is an extreme example made by you
You know what, this is not made up! That toothbrush measures movement and pressure and stuff and tells you on-screen where your cleaning is lacking and how to fix it. Yes, it is crazy, but it exists.
It can actually be a little hard to find models from major brands without wifi. That said, there is no reason that you have to give it access to your router. I worry that they'll start saying that a wifi connection is mandatory at some point, though.
I bought a new washing machine a year ago, I really had no troubles to find a "dumb" one
Any tips for finding a 'dumb' tv? One that switches on from power off in seconds, instead of a two minute loading screen?
Saw someone a few years ago recommending shopping for "commercial displays" apparently they are more expensive, but they exist. Try that out in your preferred google machine.
Lol. That might have been me. Else I'll keep my plasma until something else comes along.
Huh, what brand? Having a smart one didn't bother me so long as it didn't require a connection, so maybe I didn't look THAT hard.
It's a Bosch WAN282H3 I bought for 440€, it's a really nice device so far.
Edit: What I had problems with was finding a washing machine that only has physical buttons, I couldn't find one.
Thanks! I've been frustrated by my LG and won't buy one again. I've disassembled it twice to clean out mold. I think I'll try Bosch next time. I love my Bosch dishwasher.
You are going to get mold in any washing machine especially if you leave the door closed.
I worry that they’ll start saying that a wifi connection is mandatory at some point, though.
Yep. However, never will it be phrased like that. Not mandatory, some things just won't work without it 🤷
Mafia talk.
Mmm. It's going to be a bit of an uphill battle for manufacturers, though - not everyone has wifi signal in their laundry, that's not a part of the house that you usually hang around in.
You're right, but I'm sure they'll find a way. If not next year then in ten years. Always an evaluation of customers lost vs. income gained.
Some devices cannot be properly configured without a working network connection nowadays.
The washing machines I use are controlled with an app, but that's because they're in the basement of my building and that's how we all pay to use them. I have to say, it's much better than scrounging for quarters, although those still work if the app is down. Our previous company's app would tell how many washers were available, so you'd know if it was worth lugging your laundry downstairs. The one we have now doesn't even have reliable "all finished" notifications. But it's simple to set an ordinary timer on my phone.
Convenience is how they'll get you. Combined with landlord greed in this case.
Oir dishwasher has wifi, apparently for customising programmes, its like ai, if they can add pointless features to the list marketing hopes they sell more
I recently did a kitchen remodel, and I decided I wanted one of those cabinet microwaves, so I got one, and I found out that it has functions that are locked behind a Wi-Fi connection.
This fucking thing was $1400 brand new for a fucking microwave.
Of course, I didn't pay that, I bought it second-hand, brand-spanking new, at my local restore, but it was still $600, and it's fucking ridiculous.
There's literally nothing that I need from a microwave that needs to be done through my phone or on the internet.
Needless to say, it will never be paired to the internet, but the fact that manufacturers shove this stupid shit into our appliances is fucking stupid.
What's to even track that could use that much data? Audio alone seems like it would be less data.
Yeah, that seems like a bug. Even if it was streaming every sensor datapoint it had, it probably wouldn't be that much.
Or an update failing and re-trying over and over? Just a guess.
Humanity is lost!