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"High-altitude winds between 1,640 and 3,281 feet (500 and 10,000 meters) above the ground are stronger and steadier than surface winds. These winds are abundant, widely available, and carbon-free.

"The physics of wind power makes this resource extremely valuable. “When wind speed doubles, the energy it carries increases eightfold, triple the speed, and you have 27 times the energy,” explained Gong Zeqi "

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[–] showmeyourkizinti@startrek.website 14 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Am I crazy or didn’t we see these in Big Hero 6?

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 2 points 14 hours ago
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[–] AceBonobo@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (13 children)

Edit: I was trying to get more information from other articles and got the S1000 (100kW) mixed up with the S1500 (1000kW)

~~They're trying to get it to100kW. That's like a pretty big generator but not a huge one. So this isn't a replacement for wind farms just yet. The picture is from a year ago~~. No mention of costs.

Would it be possible to use heat to get it to float, instead of helium? Heat it up with electricity.

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[–] Steve@startrek.website 2 points 10 hours ago
[–] mlg@lemmy.world 34 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Finally the stupid floating jet engine looking turbines from Big Hero 6, except IRL they actually look good.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 71 points 21 hours ago (8 children)

Ha! Watch us burn some liquid dinosaurs!

- USA

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 33 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

Fossil fuels are from shit the dinos ate, like plants and other dumb crap. The belief that coal-rollers are cool enough to burn liquid dinosaurs is easily the single biggest lie of the oil industry.

Closely followed by -gestures wildly-

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago

The whole term fossil fuel is wrong.

[–] Zugyuk@lemmy.world 15 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Lol, got your new advert campaign... Gasoline is vegan

[–] bobslaede@feddit.dk 5 points 14 hours ago

That might actually stop the conservatives from using it.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 3 points 17 hours ago

Want to eat it?

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[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 10 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Oil is solar power with extra steps.

Just cut out the 300 year old middle man

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[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Is that thing going to be able to float itself and support the weight of the cables at the altitudes they talk about?

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 3 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Tether to the ground limits X-axis. Buoyancy limits Y-axis. Draw a circle around the sine of ground-to-windmill hypotenuse and you immediately know the max constraints of where the windmill will be

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[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 21 hours ago

I cant wait for the conspiracy theories about this

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Very interesting development. Especially that it can be deployed in disaster zones to provide energy - if there is a strong foundation to anchor it, probably.

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[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 2 points 12 hours ago

That is really cool!

[–] ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago

Wow. I hope this tech works out practically.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

I assume they have designed these in a way that doesn't adversely impact migratory birds

[–] MadPsyentist@lemmy.nz 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They'll hire Anna Paquin, she'll sort something out.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 5 points 18 hours ago

This is totally breaking loose and heading toward the nearest city in the final act.

[–] WFloyd@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (9 children)

When wind speed doubles, the energy it carries increases eightfold,

Edit: I'm wrong, see edit below!

Huh? Kinetic energy increase is square, not cubic.

KE=1/2 m v^2

So every doubling of speed should increase the available kinetic energy by 4 times, not 8. 3 times the speed is 9 times the energy. Granted there are probably some efficiency gains in excess of this at the low end, ~~but as a rule that's just wrong.~~

Edit: Cool, I learned something new! I neglected to consider it in terms of power, just thought about kinetic energy.

So something like: KE = 1/2 m v^2

= 1/2 ( rho V) v^2

= 1/2 ( rho A d) (d/t)^2

= 1/2 rho A d^3 1/t^2

Where P = KE/t

Thus:

P = 1/2 rho A (d/t)^3

= 1/2 rho A v^3

Lots of other aspects I'm sure I have wrong, but I see how the cubic came to be.

[–] DahGangalang 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I'm out of practice with my physics so apologies if this is a n00b question, but:

I'm unclear what (rho V) is and how you converted to that from mass (m). Further unclear what (rho A d) refers to.

Can you explain / link to an explainer on this?

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

Rho is density

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 24 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Its cubic actually

https://thundersaidenergy.com/downloads/wind-power-impacts-of-larger-turbines/

I don't understand the physics, but every model of power output from wind turbines uses V^3 for the formula

[–] deltamental@lemmy.world 19 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

That's a good link.

During the stampede scene in the Lion King, imagine the wildebeests were stampeding twice as fast. Then Simba's dad Mufasa would not only have quadruple the amount of energy imparted by each wildebeest, but also be trampled by twice as many wildebeests per second, so the rate of energy imparted on Mufasa per second would be 4 x 2 = 8 times greater when velocity doubles.

[–] AceBonobo@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

Education via childhood trauma

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

thx for the link! just spent the last hr reading about windmills. and although I live in a country full of them I've often wondered, but never really paused to ponder about the intricacies that go into windmill design. fascinating stuff!

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[–] WFloyd@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

Thanks for the correction! I got way ahead of myself.

[–] Beaker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 20 hours ago

Increasing the speed increases both the kinetic energy of the wind hitting the turbines and the amount of wind that hits the turbines each second.

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[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

With a traditional wind turbine, if the wind speeds get too high, the turbine locks the rotation and feathers the blades. For the airship however, people will have to manually take it down and later erect it again. Hopefully they get to it in time, otherwise it's going to violently take itself down and/or fly off. Either way, that is a bunch of extra cost incurred on a regular basis.

Strikes me as an impractical solution.

[–] Nighed@feddit.uk 7 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

A wind turbine automatically feathers. Why can't the airship automatically raise and lower itself?

With modern forecasting, getting it's height right shouldn't be too hard?

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[–] lemmeLurk@lemmy.zip 11 points 18 hours ago

Article says wind speeds are môre steady up there, wouldn't that mean whatever you put up there is build to withstand those winds?

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