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[โ€“] RBWells@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I like metric weight for cooking (on the rare occasion I make something that involves careful measuring, and for my bread making) and MILES can fuck right off, km are fine for measuring long distance. And fine with meters, cm for short distance.

But I do like how feet are 12 inches, because 12 is so evenly divisible, and like that a gallon splits in half and half again and again until you get cups. It's like RAM,

Cup is 8 oz

Pint is 16 oz

Quart is 32 oz

Half Gallon is 64 oz

Gallon is 128 oz.

That doubling sequence is satisfying.

specifically woodworking I like doing in inches, because 12. For the tasks I often do in the wood shop, fractional inches work well.

I'm confortable working in both systems, but I build furniture in inches.

[โ€“] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 5 hours ago

It annoys me so much that a small decision could have had me growing up with metric.

[โ€“] Sunshine@piefed.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

Damn Tucker Carlson mustโ€™ve stumbled upon this post. Someone should tell him that Russians use metric.

[โ€“] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

One of the many failures of American public education system that I was subjected to. It's speaks volumes about how normalized exceptionalism is in this country.

"Oh, the measurement standard the rest of the world uses? You don't need to learn that. You're an American, so people from other countries will just accomodate you because they want to be like us."

I was taught the metric system in American elementary school.

[โ€“] Sunshine@piefed.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

Americans are really falling behind these day in all the metrics ๐Ÿ˜‚

[โ€“] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago

One of the most annoying things in the world are American websites that claim to sell internationally but they only offer USD and all provided measurements are in American imperial.

Right up there with online stores that only have boxes for "state" and "zip code" even if the selected country doesn't use those.

[โ€“] HarneyToker@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

We actually use both. Imperial is easier to break into 3rds, but can still break down into other bases easily without any irrational numbers. Metric is more useful for science, but my mom who does landscaping prefers Imperial for her designs because itโ€™s not stuck in base-10.

Europeans are the ones who refuse to learn more than one system lol

[โ€“] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Everytime I see one of these posts I have to make the same comment. The US is metric, everywhere that it matters. In the military, in the medical field, and in the scientific field. The ONLY reason we haven't converted every other part of our lives to metric is that our country is 50 times the size of the average European country. Do you know how expensive it would be to replace the infrastructure we've built and maintained over the past 200 years? The tax payers could not handle that burden, and it would require every state to agree to the terms of the change for a total conversion.

At this point, it is just part of our identity. It would be like asking the French to eat day old bread. They could, but why?

[โ€“] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

I have seen US companies try, but it is so slow.

We did customs tooling. In the 80s 90s it was inch sizing and inch components. Late 90s still inch tooling but Metric components, and so drawings would have REAM for .236 Dowel ( instead of 6mm) LOL In mid 2000s tooling was metric sized as long as it was close to a purchasable inch size from the steel foundary. So block would be 608mm wide, to order a 24" block.

So 2025 mostly you can see places working full metric.

Then there are places I have worked recently that still use Fractional inch on projects and then wonder why assembly problems arise. Like design intent is 8.541 and maybe clearance to adjacent part has to be .039". Drawing has 8 9/16 + 1/32, so not only is sizing wrong compared to mating part, the fractional inch means dude uses a tape measure by eye, rather than a 3 place decimal measure tool. It's such a mess.

[โ€“] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net -1 points 3 hours ago

It's also that imperial uses body measurements for basic stuff. Your foot is about a foot long, so you can pace off distances. One yard is about the length from your collarbone to the opposite wrist, so I can roughly measure fabric quickly. From your fingertip to the crook of your thumb is about five inches, and the knuckles on your fingers are about an inch apart.

I used to do industrial embroidery at an immigrant-owned shop, and the boss switched from metric to imperial because measuring a couple inches with your fingers is faster than finding a meter stick and measuring centimeters exactly. When you've got multiple inches in your margin for error, there is no need for the precision of metric, and the speed of imperial just makes more sense.

[โ€“] JPSound@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

I'm an American and every last bit of my shop is metric. It is the superior unit of measurement in every aspect. I don't bother with imperial at all. If I have to list dimensions online in imperial, just multiply mm x 25.4 which gives me inches. That's as far as Ill go into inches and feet.

I've said this before and Ill say it again, the US was robbed of the superior unit of measurement.

[โ€“] Sunshine@piefed.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

Thank you for your efforts!

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[โ€“] J92@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

As a brit, the only thing I care about is the extra 68ml I get in my pint.

[โ€“] jerkface@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

1g water == 1ml water == ~~1cm^2~~ 1cm^3 water

[โ€“] Verdorrterpunkt@feddit.org 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Squared centimeters for a volume measurement?

[โ€“] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago

Oops! A mistake, of course

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[โ€“] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago

Being purposefully stupid and arrogant about it is the single most American thing.

[โ€“] HarneyToker@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

This thread is full of middle schoolers who donโ€™t realize that you can measure things in whatever system you want, regardless of country. The whole premise of this circlejerk is faulty.

[โ€“] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You can but there are real examples where mixing units results in failure. NASA lost a 125 million dollar mars probe in 1999 because JPL and NASA use metric but Lockheed Martin added acceleration data in American imperial units.

It might be a circle jerk but it is also best practice to use a standard system and there's really only one holdout on not using that system. I say this as an American who wishes people would just use metric because it's just easier unless you just fucking love fractions of an inch.

[โ€“] HarneyToker@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Your example of not mixing systems up within projects is somewhat valid, but not applicable to the whole. There are a lot of uses for Imperial, and using Imperial in landscaping does not have a chance of causing catastrophic failure in rocket science.

[โ€“] Sunshine@piefed.ca 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

There are a lot of uses for Imperial

Other than it being โ€œculturalโ€ and laziness thereโ€™s no point in keeping imperial. Stop using an obsolete system so we Canadians can switch our stoves to Celsius without having to worry about you yanks cooking with our equipment and hurting yourselves.

Iโ€™m going to use metric for height and weight. I donโ€™t care if some wanker American complains they can always head south if they want or visit Liberia for a getaway, get with the times already.

[โ€“] HarneyToker@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

The metric system, base 10, is not easily breakable into thirds without irrational numbers. In aesthetic fields, such as landscaping or interior design, the ability to break something into exact thirds, quarters, halves, fifths, sixths, and so on, is invaluable. Itโ€™s not just cultural. It sounds like it is to you, which is weirdโ€ฆ why are you personally identifying with a unit of measurement?

I also donโ€™t understand your Liberia reference. Could you elaborate?

[โ€“] reksas@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

anyone can do whatever on their own, but if it affects anyone else than that one person its not just that one person's business. I cant see the insistence of using imperial system as anything else than america has used it in the past, and therefore its american system and because america is the best it must be the best system to use and to claim anything else is to hate america.

[โ€“] HarneyToker@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Iโ€™m sorry that you canโ€™t seem to see it any other way, but that is just not reality. The imperial system has many uses that the metric system is not apt for.

[โ€“] reksas@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 hours ago

for example?

[โ€“] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Being a mechanical engineer in the US constantly switching between both systems really sucks. And for much more than just length and temperature

[โ€“] Sunshine@piefed.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

This couldโ€™ve been dealt with decades ago if people werenโ€™t afraid of change.

[โ€“] bricklove@midwest.social 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

How many British thermal units does it take to heat up a slug of water 1 degree Celsius?

[โ€“] Pazintach@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (5 children)

Growing up in the Metric environment, I only have to deal with the Imperial system very rarely before the Internet. But later, I found out there's a whole country that only use Imperial, and that they almost always demand you convert your system to the one they understand, and almost never bothered with Metric when they write anything. But then again, I found out that they also use units that are totally novel. I just have to accept that this is the character of them, and continue using Metric.

[โ€“] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago

Probably. Because their understanding of metric is next to none. So they don't even know what to convert it to. We also often take for granted with that we grow up with.

It wasn't until I was 25 that I realized woodworking and sewing, isn't part of the normal elementary school curriculum abroad.

It's far from easy for someone that grew up in a different system to get a good reference of what different units feel like. It's the kind of change you need multiple new generations for.

The only reference Americans have for metric is 9mm

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