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On Monday, just one day after the Republican Party staged a Horst Wessel-style memorial for Charlie Kirk in Glendale, Arizona, President Donald Trump signed an executive order designating “antifa” a “domestic terrorist organization.”

The order claims that antifa is a “militarist, anarchist enterprise” that uses “illegal means to organize and execute a campaign of violence and terrorism nationwide.”

Antifa, as even FBI Director Christopher Wray was forced to admit in a September 2020 congressional hearing, is not an organization but a broad current of opposition to fascism. “Antifa is an ideology, not an organization,” said Wray, who also testified that the bureau had no data showing any lethal violence committed by the organization.

Since antifa as a formal organization does not exist, Trump’s executive order amounts to a blanket authorization to brand political dissent and opposition to his fascist regime as “terrorism.”

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[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 15 minutes ago

Oops, guess I'm a terrorist now.

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 minutes ago

It’s gonna be like nailing jelly to a wall.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I think I've figured out Trump's Reichstag moment.

It'll be the White House burning down, because of something going wrong with the ballroom construction. Then he'll get to move the presidential residence to Mar-A-Lardo like he's always wanted, and charge the American taxpayers for renovations and rent forever.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 23 minutes ago

Kirk was the reichstag fire

[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

... in case you weren't sure what he stands for

[–] NovaSel@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

This HAS to be satirical, right?

[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

I mean, it makes sense doesn’t it?

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 18 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

They are not even hiding that they are fascist now, wow.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

🌍 👩‍🚀 🔫 👨‍🚀

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 19 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Its all the smoke screen for the epstein files.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You think making opposition to fascism a criminal offense is a distraction from releasing the files that we already know the man is in?

This is why we are fucking doomed. Get a grip.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

The birthday book is the List. People have the thing they demanded and they're still just repeating the line and nauseum to themselves.

It's terminal brainrot. Nobody knows how to resist a fascist government. All they know how to do is shitpost

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 hours ago

Its like your mind cant consider more than one thing.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 10 hours ago

Epstein files or no, this motherfucker is making it very easy to jail his critics so maybe consider giving this threat a little more weight.

[–] aviationeast@lemmy.world 33 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Historically the War Dept was anti fascist.... Which means Trump just declared the U.S. military a crimanl terrorist organization... Time to go arrested those serving in the military. Let's start at the top: The ~~good~~ old commander in chief.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Historically the War Dept was anti fascist…

Under which president? Not Jackson. Not McKinley. Not Hoover.

[–] aviationeast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 15 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I had a horrible stepgrandfather. He's done two good things: first, die, second, instill in us the value of fighting fascism. He fought nazis in europe. He went off about Constant Vigilance or something. Fighting fascists is a traditional united states value.

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[–] missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

this order doesn't really do anything. it declares that "Antifa" is a domestic terrorist organization, and directs executive agencies to prioritize investigating and preventing illegal actions done by, or on behalf of, "Antifa."

it doesn't criminalize "Antifa," define what that is, impose any sanctions, suspend any rights etc. there's no statutory authority invoked. it's just an order telling Federal law enforcement to focus on crimes by "Antifa" first.

why? probably because there's jack shit they can do. there's no magical war powers to invoke against domestic terrorists.

it's just a tweet on fancy letterhead.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 hours ago

That's the fucking point.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 23 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

And that’s the beauty of these orders… with no definitions, ANONE can be “Antifa”.

Therefore, anyone can be jailed under these new orders with zero effort needed aside from publicly branding them as an “Antifa member”.

It’s a jail-whomever-you-want-for-any-reason card. It’s the perfect tool for the ambitious fascist.

[–] FluxUniversity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

The vagueness IS THE POINT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9NnQt_eQ0I

IT IS DANGEROUS to laugh off their declarations as meaningless. Its is dangerous to call him an idiot. The vagueness is the point! THATS why fascism can take hold so quickly, because NO ONE KNOWS WHERE THE LINE IS.

So, as far as Im concerned, the line is way the fuck over - Go fuck yourself Trump. This executive order pretty much outs you as a fascist. - there.

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago

Time to start mailing antifa membership cards to all your favorite republicans.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 191 points 22 hours ago
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago

All this really does make me wonder about that Fourth Turning theory....it's like 80 years since the end of WWII, almost to the day.

We fought a war to end fascism.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 32 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

America used to be antifa.

[–] slevinkelevra@sh.itjust.works 35 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

Not really though. They were just anti German-Nazi. Just look at all the lynchings, the Jim Crow laws, segregation etc.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

Also helping to overthrow democratically elected governments in Guatemala and other Latin American countries to protect the interests of capital.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago

The fact that our govt didn't really give a shit about the nazis until Pearl Harbor forced our entry into the war.

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