This HAS to be satirical, right?
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I mean, it makes sense doesn’t it?
Its all the smoke screen for the epstein files.
You think making opposition to fascism a criminal offense is a distraction from releasing the files that we already know the man is in?
This is why we are fucking doomed. Get a grip.
Its like your mind cant consider more than one thing.
Epstein files or no, this motherfucker is making it very easy to jail his critics so maybe consider giving this threat a little more weight.
They are not even hiding that they are fascist now, wow.
this order doesn't really do anything. it declares that "Antifa" is a domestic terrorist organization, and directs executive agencies to prioritize investigating and preventing illegal actions done by, or on behalf of, "Antifa."
it doesn't criminalize "Antifa," define what that is, impose any sanctions, suspend any rights etc. there's no statutory authority invoked. it's just an order telling Federal law enforcement to focus on crimes by "Antifa" first.
why? probably because there's jack shit they can do. there's no magical war powers to invoke against domestic terrorists.
it's just a tweet on fancy letterhead.
That's the fucking point.
And that’s the beauty of these orders… with no definitions, ANONE can be “Antifa”.
Therefore, anyone can be jailed under these new orders with zero effort needed aside from publicly branding them as an “Antifa member”.
It’s a jail-whomever-you-want-for-any-reason card. It’s the perfect tool for the ambitious fascist.
Historically the War Dept was anti fascist.... Which means Trump just declared the U.S. military a crimanl terrorist organization... Time to go arrested those serving in the military. Let's start at the top: The ~~good~~ old commander in chief.
I had a horrible stepgrandfather. He's done two good things: first, die, second, instill in us the value of fighting fascism. He fought nazis in europe. He went off about Constant Vigilance or something. Fighting fascists is a traditional united states value.
Don't suppose he had signs of PTSD? Not defending him for any horrible actions but WWII messed with a lot of men's heads and gave lasting repercussions generations down the line. Helps to identify toxic traits that flow from it to stop it in your family and community.
Men of america were known to weep in the streets prior to WWI. Being open to showing emotion was robbed from men due to war.
oh definitely had that. he got ptsd after the war. it's a very long story that would probably identify me. short version, he served in a different theater than just about everyone from where he lived and thus felt ostracized by the veterans groups. because of that he never got the support he needed, which was partly a self-inflicted wound. as one of his favorite targets, i find i'm more able to empathize/sympathize with other folk who've been in his position than him.
Time to start mailing antifa membership cards to all your favorite republicans.
All this really does make me wonder about that Fourth Turning theory....it's like 80 years since the end of WWII, almost to the day.
We fought a war to end fascism.
America used to be antifa.
Not really though. They were just anti German-Nazi. Just look at all the lynchings, the Jim Crow laws, segregation etc.
Also helping to overthrow democratically elected governments in Guatemala and other Latin American countries to protect the interests of capital.
The fact that our govt didn't really give a shit about the nazis until Pearl Harbor forced our entry into the war.
Shit news source generally (tankie as all hell), but in this specific case the article seems solid.
Fuck fascism. Fuck this entire administration. Fuck Charlie Kirk and every other nazi like him.
Remember this moment? He's probably right
Trump is leaving office in a casket tbh. There's even a decent chance it happens before his term is up.
I'll be mildly surprised if he sees 2026.
The entire civilized world has been against fascism at least since 1939. donny is apparently trying to make most of the world a criminal.
To be fair, this is in line with is overall strategy: just go batshit crazy.
One can be anti fascist whilst not being a member of Antifa. Don't forget people, these are the dumbest people in the world running this show.
There are no 'members' of Antifa. There are only people that are anti-fascist.
Edit to add: The only people trying to make Antifa a thing are fascists trying to convince the dumbfuck masses that opposition to them is somehow a bad thing. And now they're trying to make that a crime.
I think conflating Antifa with anyone they choose is exactly the objective.
Yup, it’s just a new method to be able to kidnap people off the streets. First it was “they were an immigrant” and then “they looked like an immigrant”. And now it has progressed to “they looked like a domestic enemy of the state”.
No, "antifa" is, itself, the term for the position of being against fascism. There is no organization.
They also will not care as they're just going to accuse their enemies of it regardless of how left they are. They know exactly what they are doing, and they've been doing it way faster than I expected.
I would argue there is no organization known as "antifa". Certainly nothing with structure or presence like tpusa or the proud boys, ya know the organization that terrorized the seat of our nation 5 years ago...
Good luck with that, orange loser
Where does one go to find a clown wig and a plastic red nose combo large enough to fit a continent?
In the last 30 years, the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) has documented only one killing committed by an alleged antifa supporter. On August 29, 2020, Michael Reinoehl shot and killed fascist Aaron “Jay” Danielson, a member of Patriot Prayer, during a protest in Portland, Oregon. On social media following the killing, Trump encouraged police forces to kill Reinoehl. “Do your job, and do it fast. Everybody knows who this thug is,” Trump said. Reinoehl was murdered by police and federal agents on September 3, 2020.
While there have been virtually no documented killings committed by alleged antifa members, there have been hundreds of murders and tens of thousands of assaults committed by self-declared fascists, antisemites, far-right militia elements and white supremacists over the last 30 years.
I'm still going to protest, because I'm not the coward that these fascists are hoping for.
Getting arrested for holding a sign on public property will be a slam dunk lawsuit.
Executive Orders cover the federal executive branch. They aren't federal law, they aren't state law & the certainly don't override the Constitution.
Grow a fucking spine.
^^^ Look at this guy with his...
"I'll be protected by the law" attitude....
We need to protest even if we’re not protected. We need to protest even if we wind up hanging for it, like Sofie Scholl.
In a sane world, yeah, it would be a slam-dunk lawsuit, but we’re in uncharted territory now, so who knows if that will remain true. The direction we’re moving in will be so much worse. If we don’t protest now, when we might possibly have some protection, we’ll wind up in a world where our protest will absolutely cost us our life.
I get what you guys are saying but this idealogy is what makes this a reality. People must continue to protest in large numbers. Only once the numbers dwindle will they sweep in and start charging people with terrorism. There is safety in numbers.
I don't support fascism. I'm wholly against it. I guess that makes me antifascist.
Is Antifa even an organization, and not just a general term for people who oppose fascism, which should be the majority of the population?
WSWS tend to be sensationalist in its articles, but I agree with them for once on this matter.