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[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 2 points 19 minutes ago

Betcha the delivery guy delivers for one or more from many takeout food spots that are probably located inside the building itself.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 2 points 7 minutes ago
[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

So it's Peachtree towers in MegaCity 1.

Judge Dredd approves.

[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

We have builds like this, but not as big in Taiwan. They almost always have an area downstairs that the food is placed so people can come down and get it.

I imagine they also have the same thing in China.

[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

D'you place the order before or after heading downstairs?

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

If I lived on the top floor I would place the order from the comfort of my home then immediately start walking down stairs and by the time I got there the order will have probably arrived.

[–] MathiasTCK@lemmy.world 2 points 14 minutes ago

Three days later

[–] BCBoy911@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (9 children)

We need this in North America if we ever want to solve the housing crisis tbh. I'm talking Soviet-style, grey concrete commieblocks. Yes the buildings are ugly, probably lack amenities, cheaply constructed and not well maintained, but we desperately need cheap, dense housing if we're going to bring down the costs. Building more luxury Manhattan condos and suburban single family abominations does nothing to bring down housing prices.

[–] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 hour ago

The problem is that, for the property owning class, the unaffordability of homes is broadly a feature and not a bug.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

3-5 story housing with no parking works in France/Europe. No elevators/pools is huge cost savings. Room for cars ridiculously expensive where land is ridiculously expensive. Bikeable/walkable communities FTW. 5th story units would be cheaper, but young people need cheaper.

[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

elevators are required for ada compliance

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 minutes ago

3 story houses/buildings exist without elevators. There is no proposal to outlaw ADA compliant buildings.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

We need mass housing, but also a focus on aesthetics.
I noticed my area has done a nice job after visiting Chicago. Chicago was concrete, roads and parking lots, and barren. Fly back to metro Vancouver and even worst neighborhood has beautitul construction, parks, trees and flower beds everywhere.

[–] BCBoy911@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I mean I agree that Vancouver is maybe one of the most beautiful cities in the world, but it's also one of the most expensive!

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 22 minutes ago

Yeah I meant an hour out of Vancouver, Metro Vancouver... But still pricey

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

We don't even necessarily need those, fucking row townhouses like old Chicago or New York would be a massive improvement in space usage and density alone. Just modify the design to have a garage in the back and make the alleyway larger. Hell you could narrow the front road if you do it right.

[–] possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Hell you ~~could~~ should narrow the front road ~~if you do it right.~~ and turn it into a pedestrian plaza with a few shops and restaurants.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

While I like the enthusiasm we are still talking about the US here, even just for controlled semitruck or emergency service access it would still need to be wide enough for say a firetruck even compensation with utility alleyways and back end garages. But you could set it up to be relatively easily converted to such a thing if the required modifications to infrastructure and emergency services are done, but even then it'd be twenty years off even on a rapid timescale.

[–] possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

To be fair, I didn't say make it impassible, I said narrow it. It's easy enough to make a pedestrian plaza that a box truck or a firetruck can fit down. It works in the majority of the cities and towns in Scandinavia. They're not going to build affordable rowhomes or high density housing in the states anytime soon so this is literally allll wishcasting from top to bottom.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That’s how you create undesirable neighborhoods which eventually turn into ghettos. Many cities in Europe tried that and many of those neighborhoods quickly became unsafe and derelict. Like many of the banlieus in Paris or the Bijlmer in Amsterdam. Because people who eventually have the means to move out will leave asap. Nobody wants to settle in such a neighborhood. So only the poor and desperate stay. Which in turn means local business will leave as well.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 3 points 2 hours ago

I agree with the general mission of FuckCars, but it always seems full of people who don't care about anything of what goes into a prosperous city that isn't the amount of cars on the road.

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 hours ago

Cheap construction and poor maintainability is more expensive in the long run, I think it's possible to create affordable housing while still having longevity and a reasonable access to amenities in mind.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I honestly think commieblocks don't look that bad.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

We need mass housing, but also a focus on aesthetics.
I noticed my area has done a nice job after visiting Chicago. Chicago was concrete, roads and parking lots, and barren. Fly back to metro Vancouver and even worst neighborhood has beautitul construction, parks, trees and flower beds everywhere.

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

Ok this is a soft rebuttal because I agree we need to fix affordability asap, but is intensification really the right path?

Like something else needs to be fixed or these super condos will just enable politicians to import even more people to maintain the unaffordability.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

China: Bulldozes Kowloon Walled City

Also China:

[–] ClamDrinker@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

Mailroom aside, if a delivery guy is fine crossing a city with 20/30k people horizontally in traffic, I don't really see why this is such a bad thing when you break it down.

I count 35 floors, so you can cut it down to ~850 people on each floor after an elevator ride, and a building like this will probably have at least 4 elevator areas sectioning the building almost equally.

So you're down to about ~210 people after entering the right side of the building, that's like a big street / small neighborhood (and how far you have to walk should scale closely to that). And with this much people in one area you can really easily batch deliveries. And a delivery place will probably settle quite closely to such a hub of people anyways.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago

at least 4 elevator areas sectioning the building almost equally.

each elevator lobby also has its own address. It's less confusing than you'd imagine, and also any delivery drivers will have been there before.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Also: big buildings usually have cargo elevators. It would be insanity to "door-dash" every last package on the passenger cars, limited by what could be carried or lugged on a hand-truck. Instead, they would load up the whole car from the truck on a loading dock, then deliver one floor at a time, start/stopping the car where needed.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

They probably have a number of diverse food kitchens in there, and would most likely "buy local", anyway. That building being basically a slum, I doubt that there is much delivery from the outside.

[–] Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

High density housing bad and dystopian. Homelessness good. Now build more single family homes with lawns pls. /s

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Low-rise to mid-rise high-density housing, sure, but high-rises are bad, yes. They cost more to maintain, they either prevent adequate sunlight at lower levels or need to be spaced apart wide enough to defeat the point, and they tend to be worse for social isolation and anti-social behaviour.

[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

low rise and mid rise are ugly as hell compared to densely packed high rise buildings or single family homes

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

Have to agree to disagree. Most of the prettiest areas of London consist of Edwardian mansion blocks and Georgian terraces.

[–] Buddahriffic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

Luckily each unit has a number that indicates the floor and each floor probably has a floormap near the elevator, so you won't have to go knocking on random doors until you find the person.

Same thing for making deliveries in cities of several million. If there's an effective addressing system, it's usually trivial to find the destination, or at least to get very close to it and switch to "ok wtf is going on here with the last bit of this address?" mode.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago

Got nothing on Kowloon. That was a marvel. Scary, probably deadly, but a marvel nonetheless.

[–] azureskypirate@lemmy.zip 8 points 16 hours ago

This is dumb. You can't let delivery guys/gals up into the hallways unaccompaioned in an apartment building this size. You have to go down to the front door

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