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Pretty crazy how much control they're able to exert over information.

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[–] dumbass@aussie.zone 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Claude.ai just dies when you ask it that.

Even does it when you just want to boycott isreal.

Edit: Deepseek doesn't give a fuck.

404 genocide not found. stop asking, or you'll get a 307.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

GLM 4.5 run locally will give both.

[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Works for me just fine. Are you in the USA, the land of the free?

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Interesting. I tried the exact wording you used and it gave results with no issue. I tried the same wording as OP and it said it can't give advice, although it did summarize an Israel BDS compaign

Unfortunately located in the land of the "free"

[–] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

NEVER, ever, ever, ever expect an AI to give you unaltered, unbiased facts. IF there was a time when that was possible at all.

All these AI's are now owned by billionaires, and they spend billions to make sure that they control what that AI says.

"Gosh, golly, this AI is lying to me!"

Yeah, no shit, dumbass.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 10 points 1 day ago

And that’s the entire point. Control of society through this type of information flow.

[–] Tagger@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Gemini will happily give advice on boycotting seemingly any country, including Israel

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Yeah, the Gemini LLM itself feels less censored, though they deep fried it into being super sycophantic.

It won’t refuse (or disagree) much as long as you don’t trigger the prefilter.

Which is annoying, as the preview versions were not so sycophantic…

[–] nuggie_ss@lemmings.world 2 points 1 day ago

Beautiful, thanks.

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Note that the AI are generally trained on batches of the internet; they'll always be at least 6 months behind popular opinion (and usually much longer).

There's been a strong case made that Israel really is not Judaism, but it was a case that (sadly) needed to be made to a lot of people. I presume gpt will shift over the next few years - it is quite annoying to control the information coming out of an LLM atm. So I take this as a sign that a public information campaign worked.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There’s been a strong case made that Israel really is not Judaism

It's baffling to me that it had to be made. Why would a country be equated to a religion? It's like saying the current Saudi government represents all of Islam

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

I think Israel is a case of both strong payoff (many people really dislike/push back against antisemitism in a way that they simply don't for islamophobia; the words we have for them are weirdly not parallel), and concentrated spending for a long while.

The Saudi government probably could make itself such an icon, they have the money and the leverage. But I suspect it doesn't benefit them much.