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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.org/post/1872634

So, starting now, Google started mandating full JS for YT, effectively breaking all third-party clients and locking the site to their official client.

This reeks of DRM.

UPDATE: Installing Deno and installing yt-dlp through PyPi fixes yt-dlp but the very idea that Google is mandating JS to lock down YT in an attempt at pseudo-DRM is still crappy.

UPDATE #2: inv.nadeko.net is working again for now.

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[–] enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 8 hours ago

about +12 hours ago spotdl (which uses yt-dlp) was broken. But I keep go on watching videos on newpipe

[–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 23 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

They're going to keep enshitifying it until they kill it completely. Them blackholes, I mean shareholders, will never have enough money.

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Overheard at the last shareholders conference. “Until everyone empties all their ecoin & change jars and the only things left to eat are those mysterious Budding’s sandwich meats with some shit ass processed excuse for a loaf of bread.” This is where we want the average American citizen to be living/existing/panicking.” I dunno his name, but it was for sure a rich, old, white dude. A real Montgomery Burns type looking MF’er. I dunno? They all look the same to me. EDIT: Apparently I fit that demographic according to the young ‘uns visiting us. Although they think I look like “The Dude” from “The Big Lebowski”.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The market that accesses YouTube from a PC or Mac is shrinking rapidly.

They would prefer you use one of the apps and at some point that will be the majority, if it isn't already

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah last I've seen even smartphones and tablets are decreasing quickly relative to smart TVs.

[–] jmf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 minutes ago

What??? Where did you see this? I would assume the mobile market is still skyrocketing.

[–] devedeset@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago

They won't kill it, just like it hasn't died so far. The content, viewer demographics, and algorithm continue to shift. There's too much money with all the ads and subscription fees. Most people view some content on it by default.

Its gonna be the new cable TV in a way. Kinda sucks, some good stuff on it, but mostly slop filled with ads. And everyone will still use it. Even if they block all 3rd party access, people like me are still going to use it to some limited degree. There will be a video about how to fix a random plumbing fitting that is leaking in my house, or how to fix some random thing on my 15 year old car.

[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 21 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

New pipe and smart tube both working for me.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

My self hosted downloader similarly didn't skip a beat.

[–] Bitswap@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 hours ago

YoutubeDL-Material. It works great and I've found it downloads videos from other sources too.

[–] mrpollo@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 hours ago

Yt-dlp worked for me 3 hours ago

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 15 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly surprised YouTube hasn't just required DRM yet

[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (7 children)

Well.. the only available option to them for DRM that will work on all devices is Widevine L3 which is entirely bypassable. Spend a few hours on the net and you can figure out how to do it too.

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Well, if they want to make everyone either buy Rokus or watch YT either in Edge on Windows (the official way to watch Netflix on PC currently) or on another Android device than a Roku with the official YT app, they could just implement a full Widevine L1 lockdown, and sadly, just buying a Roku to watch YT on or watching it on a pre-existing Roku along with the paid streaming services, is probably what most people would actually do if they locked it down like that.

Basically, Google would win the ad blocker and third-party front-end war by locking YT into pre-approved apps or devices, and as an added bonus (for them), they'd snuff out any competing platforms as Widevine L1 would also kill the ability to mirror one's YT channel to one of the alternative platforms, and I guarantee most people who just post any random thing on YT don't store their source video files locally to be able to to re-upload on PeerTube, Odysee, or Rumble, if anything, they're likely just filming and posting straight from their phones.

Now, the people with nice studio setups probably do have a local copy of their source files stored somewhere that they could re-up on their alternative platform of choice, but average Joes filming from a phone outnumber them.

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[–] carrylex@lemmy.world 53 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

This post's title is just completely incorrect and it looks like 700+ people didn't even read the comments or the actual issue for one minute.

Good job guys!

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[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You should remember to send all YT videos that you watch to archive.org

There are browser extensions to do this conveniently

[–] xvertigox@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Which extension are you referring to? Is it the standard Wayback Machine extension or a youtube specific one?

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[–] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Google doing everything they can to anger everyone.

[–] NotKyloRen@lemmy.zip 15 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I cancelled YT Premium after paying pretty much since Google Music was a thing. The price keeps going up ($14/month now here in the US), and Lite is meh even for the discounted price (e.g. no background play I think?).

They just keep building the wall higher and higher, while they survive only because creators keep filling it with content. Nobody is watching "YouTube Originals" or their first party content. YouTube exists solely because of third party creators.

Not only that but I can survive with Brave or Firefox with UBO or whatever. It's not that hard to avoid the ads, even if it's a little inconvenient vs being able to use the app.

[–] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 22 minutes ago

If you're using your phone, definitely check out YouTube revanced. Or if on a tv check out Smart tube next. No ads, sponsor block baked in. It's all the perks of premium (plus more) without the cons of supporting an evil company

[–] cryptix@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Newpipe still working for me now?

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 25 points 23 hours ago (9 children)

This reeks of same shit different day or at least different month. Last time if I recall you had to include a valid cookie with yt-dlp.

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[–] art@lemmy.world 124 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Just ran am update for ytdlp and it's working again.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Someone please find the Steins;Gate Wordline, I'm not really enjoying the worldline convergence, everything is turning to shit.

[–] luipaard0011@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago

My friend, you need to watch Steins;Gate 😅

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