Taking a page from Putin's playbook. Anything but to alleviate the cost of living crisis, which is the main reason for people not having children. It is also a thinly veiled attempt to reassert dominance on women.
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We have this already. It's called dependant deduction.
And if you are infertile through no fault of your own? Surely they would be thoughtful enough to recognize that taxing you would make no sense, correct?
You are already taxed on not having children because you cannot write them off if you don't have them.
Families and having dependents already gives you tax breaks, ergo not having kids already is taxing childlessness.
Ok. So let's talk about the two scenarios here if you can't afford kids.
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You're taxed for childlessness, likely at an amount above the cost of a child or two, to "encourage" you to have children. You are now unable to afford that tax and thus, risk jail.
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You have a child when you can't afford it to avoid the tax, and now have to bring up a child you cannot afford to raise in a government that actively doesn't want to help you in any way.
In short. You're fucked either way.
Nothing, and I mean nothing, can convince me to have a child.
What if we trapped JD Vance in the body of an immortal baby you could endlessly neglect?
I'd like evidence he isn't currently an immortal baby.
I would be willing to test the immortal claim with a sledgehammer
He sure is an immoral one.
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See, I'd still have to see, hear, smell the thing.
There is no element of a child under the age of say 10 that I enjoy at all.
That horrible shriek they make, happy or sad sounds exactly the same to me, makes my skin crawl.
No babies, not ever. Death before diapers!
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Ahh. Lebensborn. I should have made a bingo card with all the keywords of Nazi Germany. The Trump administration has it all. Censorship, GeStaPo, apartheit against minorities, Reichsparteitag, ignoring the law, using emergency laws to ursurp the rule, concentration camps...
No doubt tax credits for white blonde children.
This isn't how you get me to have a kid. This is how you get me to dodge taxes.
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Counterpoint to JD:
I am autistic.
Surely you don't want me generating more autists, right?
I can assure you this is directed at white able bodied "normies"
I'm a minority with a professional degree in a profession that has more job openings than candidates, especially in rural areas like JD had grown up in. I know in my heart he would deport me without question, regardless of if I were American born, to the homeland of my ancestors. I'd imagine he would find my humanist values quite disturbing.
They want an Aryan nation as Hitler envisioned it. They're convinced it will be utopian. If not, it'll at least allow them to deify themselves as the white people they've sold the "master race" lie to are loyal to them to the point of self immolation.
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Just don't eat tylenol, apparently.
Right right, my stupid autism brain is still stuck in 'reality' where there is pretty strong genetic inheritance, a heritability component to autism.
Ok, so new instructions are... apparently... generate a child by some arcane means, natural or unnatural, BUT, under no circumstances allow the target of my impregnation powers to use any Tylenol for 9 months.
I phrase this as cringily as possible to convey the concept that this is an incel tax.
It is a tax on incels.
....The only way this could even theoretically work is if it was also paired with a uh, Nazi style Aryan broodmother / assigned wife type program.
So, I guess, get ready for that soon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn
Somewhat of a sticking point:
The Nazis aborted pregnancies from the racially impure and those suspected to be born with a disability.
So... not quite sure how the theocrats will feel about that.
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When the communists got the same idea in Romania, it failed spectacularly, filling orphanages with abused orphans
Yeah, we kinda need to go the other way on this one. A tax deduction for anyone under the age of 30 who uses long-term birth control.
This sort of America-centric analysis neglects the fact that birth rates have also dropped to well below replacement in other countries with governments and cultures very different from those in the USA, and that neither expanding the welfare state nor attempting to restore traditional values has reversed this trend in the countries that tried that. Thus a discussion of either potential causes or potential solutions which focuses specifically on the USA is fundamentally incomplete.
potential solutions
Birth rates below replacement is the solution imo. It may not be wat the rich want, but I think a population of 8 billion is not sustainable.
Global population is still growing, I think I read it's predicted to keep increasing into late mid century to around 11 billion before it plateaus and starts slowly falling.
The numbers get very optimistic from there will predictions of rebounds and other nonsense that is unlikely but the people claiming it will be long dead.
People who were raised as a single child are far more likely to only have one child so my bet is the population dwindles more quickly than these models indicate.
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Humanity is incapable of finding equilibrium with it’s environment. We are killing a myriad of species and destroying our own climate stability. This problem is exasperated by high population numbers. Lower birth rate is a good thing since it’s clear humanity refuses to adapt to its environment. Our greed is unsustainable, especially when coupled with these population numbers or higher.
This comment presupposes that “below replacement rate” is a problem in need of a solution.
Yes, in a few thousand years it might be a problem. However, population growth is a problem for the next few decades at least.
Losing the incel vote will for go well for them
You know who this punishes more than just childless heterosexuals?
That's right. Couch fuckers. Unless his Chesterfield gets pregnant with an ottoman... 🤔
I have two adopted kids, but no biological children. I had a vasectomy after the adoption was finalized. My wife and i have a theoretical decade left where she can (unsafely) carry a child. We do not want more children. Would I be fucked if this happened? What if you conceive but have miscarriages? Would you be punished for something outside your control?
The answer to all of these is probably "Yes, the cruelty is the point"
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Small government in action.
Can’t wait for my government assigned trad wife
Are you sure about that?
Ya she looks better than JD Vance. Couple a beers and she’s a beauty queen
They need everyone to pop out a ton of babies so we can have child labor replace the migrant farm workers they deported.
Child labor has a years-long lead time. The only way this would actually work is if they planned on staying in power for at least 7 more years.
So... yeah, that checks out.
I've always thought it's insane we pay people to have children, but sure let's take that even further and tax those who don't.
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