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Greta Thunberg Steps Down from Gaza Flotilla Steering Group (swedenherald.com)

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Swedish activist Greta Thunberg leaves her board assignment for Global Sumud Flotilla, reports Spanish El Mundo with reference to Italian left-wing newspaper Il Manifesto

Archived version: https://archive.is/newest/https://swedenherald.com/article/greta-thunberg-steps-down-from-gaza-flotilla-steering-group

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's a classic play by security agencies and opposition groups .... tactics originally developed by the US after WWII. There's even a manual you can find online that shows all this.

Insert and include members, spies, bad actors into an organization. The goal of these characters is to just delay and disrupt .... bog down the machine to slow everything down or even shut it down.

Cause endless bureaucracy, complications and difficulties for everything ... get people to meet on everything no matter how small, debate everything on every detail, reassess constantly and just make everything as complicated as possible.

It wears actual supporters down over time, to the point of pushing people away and even inviting in more bad actors to make things even worse.

Simple Sabotage Field Manual

Here's the manual .... I'm sure after 60 years, they've updated it and made it more sophisticated and effective.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cause endless bureaucracy, complications and difficulties for everything ... get people to meet on everything no matter how small, debate everything on every detail, reassess constantly and just make everything as complicated as possible.

I see you have been to most of my meetings

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol .... you might have a spy in your organization.

[–] Feyr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

What, all of them?

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

According to the newspaper, she believes that the organization's communication focuses too much on internal matters. She is still reported to continue the sailing trip to Gaza.

"We all have a role: Mine will not be in the governing committee, but as an organizer and participant", says Thunberg according to Il Manifesto.

According to the organization, the intention of the trip is to "break the illegal siege" of the Gaza Strip by opening a humanitarian corridor by sea.

[+] blave@lemmy.world -63 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

For someone who creates so much drama all over the world simply by her presence, she has a surprising lack of tolerance for exactly that type of drama.

That said, it’s good to know when to step away because the organization you’re backing is too tied up with their own internal bullshit. I wish American Democrats understood this concept.

Edit: since so many of you are hallucinating that I am blaming anyone for anything…

Gothenburg is awesome and one of the Crystal heroes. I blame him for nothing. Everyone who keeps hallucinating that I blamed her for anything… It’s a hallucination. And you’re hallucinating for reasons I don’t care to understand. But you’re hallucinating, and I never said anything other than that I have the greatest respect for her in which she does.

If you hallucinated that I said anything else, your hallucinating. Good luck with your psychotic. But you’re hallucinating. I never said that.

Edit : so mad i calles you for lying about what i said. Cry cry cry

Here is a resource where you can get to help you desperately need: https://www3.erie.gov/mentalhealth/i-need-help-now

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 50 points 2 days ago (5 children)

For someone who creates so much drama all over the world simply by her presence, she has a surprising lack of tolerance for exactly that type of drama.

Almost as if her goal is actual forward progress, instead of drama and wankery. Be like Greta.

American Democrats

No idea what the fuck this part is about

[–] apenstaartje@lemmy.cafe 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Right? Greta is amazing. I bet that user just doesn’t like women in power.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Almost as if her goal is actual forward progress, instead of drama and wankery.

You can get a hell of a lot done when you don't care who gets the credit.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io -2 points 2 days ago (4 children)

American Democrats

No idea what the fuck this part is about

It's about astroturfers taking every opportunity to smear Democrats, even if it doesn't make any sense at all.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean I wasn't going to say it before at least understanding what they were even trying to say, but yes lol

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I understood immediately: "Democrats bad." That's what they were trying to say.

When it's fucking fascists who are actively and obviously creating all of the problems, and someone throws shade on literally anyone else about it, that person is a fucking fascist.

Make no mistake: I'm not saying the DNC or any specific Democrat is "perfect" by any stretch. I am saying that demanding perfection from anyone who's taking even the slightest stand against fascism is counterproductive, considering the behemoth that must be taken down. They want us to fight with each other, so that we're less effective at fighting them.

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

Be sure to update us whenever the DNC takes even the slightest stand against fascism.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When it's fucking fascists who are actively and obviously creating all of the problems, and someone throws shade on literally anyone else about it, that person is a fucking fascist.

That is literally not what that word means.

I am saying that demanding perfection from anyone who's taking even the slightest stand against fascism is counterproductive,

Nobody is demanding perfection from the DNC, and pretending that is what's going on completely invalidates your point. Base your rhetoric in reality if you want to have a good faith anything.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 0 points 2 days ago

If we don't hang together, we will hang separately.

[–] blave@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You could ask what it’s about, or you could hallucinate your own delusional bullshit to blame me for the horrible things in your brain

Or you could just ask what I meant. But I think you preferred a hallucinate, horrible delusions and then blame me for that.

All right, you could just ask me what I meant. Do you actually care?

Get help: https://www3.erie.gov/mentalhealth/i-need-help-now

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Obvious troll is obvious.

[–] blave@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago

Obvious hallucination is obvious

I’m a troll because I called you out for being a liar you are? Cry, cry, cry, cry, boo-hoo.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Edit : so mad i calles you for lying about what i said. Cry cry cry

It's a bold rhetorical strategy Cotton lol, let's see if it turns the readers around to their point of view

Honestly I couldn't even really make sense of what you were trying to say, I don't think I hallucinated anything aside from my own confusion. I do think there is a powerful analogy at work here though. "Gothenberg" as you are calling her (I think? him? what? anyway), when she saw that the organization that was "officially in charge" of forward progress wasn't really upholding the values, just left them to whatever their bullshit was, and continued fighting directly for change (as part of that organization), because that's what's important. Some other people in contrast when they see that the DNC is a bunch of horse manure dressed up in expensive suits, start SCREAMING about how Democrats are the worst and forward progress has to start with attacking them at every turn.

First strategy makes sense to me. Second one not so much. Like I say, be like Greta.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hard to really blame her for the drama when the media simply fixates on her for being her.

[–] apenstaartje@lemmy.cafe 6 points 2 days ago

It’s always the woman’s fault.