Awful shit aside, I thought people generally believed that you don't go to heaven if you commit suicide?
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It's a primarily a Catholic thing. The reasoning is that for every sin you commit, you must ask forgiveness (confession). By committing suicide, you have committed a sin but cannot ask for forgiveness and are thus condemned.
I never understood why you couldn't ask posthumously
It's almost as if it's a bunch of nonsense
Most Protestants also regard suicide as a grievous sin. Some of the more liberal Protestants accept, with some hemming and hawing that assisted suicide might not send you straight to Hell. As for the fundies, I don't believe there's a consistent consensus view.
I know Catholics definitely believe that, but I can't say I remember hearing the protestant sects say anything about it.
I was raised Baptist and suicide = hell is definitely a thing. Some sort of catch about being unable to ask for forgiveness or something but it's definitely seen as a mortal sin.
Basically for Protestants in particular you have to have suicide be a hellworthy offense. Because if the only single thing you need to do to get into heaven is to accept Jesus as your lord and savior, requiring nothing else and wiping away any past wrongs, then there is no incentive not to just immediately kill yourself afterwards and go straight to heaven. It would quickly devolve into a death cult. Don't want that cuz you can't grift them all out of money if they kill themselves.
True story... saw a documentary about it starting Keanu Reeves
A friendly reminder that she was a Prager U staff.
PragerU and discovery institute are ground zero for religious brain rot & bootlicking lessons
Kind of a click bait-y title. They claim there is no afterlife besides heaven, Hitler is dead, therefore Hitler went to heaven. In their mythology, hell doesn't exist.
They're also a raging antisemite who thinks the Nazis did nothing wrong and fascism is the only way to save America. So in a roundabout way the title isn't that wrong.
Kind of a clock bait-y title. They claim there is no afterlife besides heaven, Hitler is dead, therefore Hitler went to heaven. In their mythology, hell doesn’t exist.
Oh, that's actually not a terrible idea if you believe in an absolutely good deity. No matter how much pain and suffering you cause during a finite time you are alive, it can't possibly justify being tortured in hell for eternity. You wouldn't go around saying Hitler went to heaven, but I can see them being put on a spot and having to concede this unpopular point.
They’re also a raging antisemite who thinks the Nazis did nothing wrong and fascism is the only way to save America. So I’m a roundabout way the title isn’t that wrong.
Oh. Oh no.
They’re just trying to make Trump feel better since he’s been wondering lately if he’ll get into heaven.
Pope Francis went on the record saying he hoped Hell is empty. Torturing even the worst person for all eternity is overkill in my opinion, maybe after 500, 5000, 5 million years of celestial reeducation, if he really put the effort in, Hitler's soul could be free. He's only human and given the absolute worst circumstances and decisions I believe any of us could end up fucking up as bad as him.
FWIW I dont really believe in an afterlife but I do want to believe in universal redemption, as difficult as that can be sometimes.
FWIW I dont really believe in an afterlife but I do want to believe in universal redemption, as difficult as that can be sometimes.
I'd like to believe in pie in the sky too, but I don't. The only justice in this world is what we make, and it's a rare thing when that happens.
True that, Justice is sacred but only when we respect her enough that she remains in this world. As Rome was falling, Justice was the last of the great virtues to leave.
Believe it or not there were people that have done things just as bad as Hitler that have been genocides the world round and for centuries. Hitler wouldn't be the only one in that circumstance. But in my mind fuck them all they all deserve an eternity in hell if there were such a thing. I'm hoping there's nothing after this life that way we all just disappear and dissipate and life is what it is and how we lived it is how we lived it.
Depends, would the worst person torture humanity for all eternity, and never change their mind?
I think measured against an infinite time even the slowest person would come around. Life is short and nobody is absolutely, perfectly evil, maybe colossally so, more than enough to fill 100 years of a spiteful and bitter life but always in a finite way.
If killing six million people doesn’t send you to hell, nothing will.
It's well over 6 million, that's just Jewish people.
17 million civilians systematically killed, let alone the military casualties, civilian collateral damage, and starting WWII in the first place.
He was just lucky there was no right wing podcast bro among them
Well, wanking does.
One of the most chilling accounts of the holocaust, is a person describing being ushered on a train, being told, they are being relocated and they will have a hot meal and clothes and blankets when they arrive. The approach a huge hill, with a big line, the guards gleefully telling them they will get hot meals and everything else as soon as they get in, this guard of course was playing a cruel joke. His mind destroyed by the depravity of the Nazis.
Then the victim describes topping the hill to see mass graves and they arrive at a station where a Nazi looks in their mouth to see if they have any gold and silver teeth, and proceeds to yank them out before they get into the camp. That is Adolf Hitler. There is a reason people refer to him as the most evil person. Sure others killed more indirectly, but Hitler killed millions systematically and with intention. Pure hatred and pure depravity and pure existential nihilism.
Other thing these far right psychos were doing, human experimentation, vivisection, (operating on people while they are alive) to do medical experiments. Freezing people to death to see how long it would take frost bite to kill them. Mind control and brainwashing experiments. Testing drugs on them. One of the guys who was operating on living prisoners was named Joseph Mangdeleve. After the war he was sent to the U.S to work with the CIA and eventually ended up in a psychiatric hospital in Canada where he ended up operating on live human test subjects once again. All of this within full knowledge of the entire U.S, U.K, and Canadian government.
When you realize the full history of what the U.S and other right wing governments have been up to, Epstein seems fairly tame in comparison. Epstein is nowhere near the worse person the U.S protected and essentially made into a spy with diplomatic immunity.
When you refer to Joseph Mangdeleve, are you confusing Josef Mengelev (Nazi doctor, escaped to Argentina, drowned at the beach in 1979) with Ewen Cameron, Scottish doctor involved in MK ULTRA in Canada and the US for the CIA, testing LSD on mental patients?
Cameron wasn't associated with the nazi party, although his experiments were probably inspired by Nazi work including Mengelev, who did do lots of experiments on concerntration camp victims, especially twins.
They're also confusing the nazi human experiments with the Japanese unit 731.
Also are they saying that Hitler literally ushered Jews onto trains and escorted them to the death camps?
Like. He's the most evil person in human history but I don't think he was that hands on.
ANYONE who Opposes Hitler is a TERRORIST!
-Our Government LITERALLY Yesterday!
Proof? Someone convince this guy to record a video for us in heaven