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Radosław Sikorski upbraids Moscow for being “incapable of living in peace” with its neighbors following a series of incursions into NATO airspace.

Russia shouldn't complain at the United Nations if its missiles or aircraft are shot down after entering NATO airspace, Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski warned Moscow on Monday.

Sikorski was speaking at an emergency session of the U.N. Security Council in New York. The summit was convened after three Russian military jets entered Estonian airspace for 12 minutes on Sept. 19 before being repelled by Italian F-35s representing NATO.

"I have only one request to the Russian government: If another missile or aircraft enters our space without permission, deliberately or by mistake, and gets shot down and the wreckage falls on NATO territory, please don't come here to whine about it," Sikorski said. "You have been warned."

Not to be outdone, Sikorski sent a further barb Moscow's way in New York: "We know you don't care for international law, and you are incapable of living in peace with your neighbors. Your insane nationalism contains a lust for domination that will not cease until you realize that the age of empires is over and that your empire will not be rebuilt."

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[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 day ago (24 children)

I kinda expected ww3 would be started by China instead of russian idiocracy

[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I assumed the USA would do something monumentally stupid.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is a given. The only question is where? Venezuela? Russia? Strait of Taiwan? West Philippines sea? Greenland? Iran? North Korea? California? There's really no telling where they'll take out their dick and start helicoptering it.

[–] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

We're busy invading ourselves at the moment, give us some time.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Guaranteed with the throwbacks in charge right now.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

That was on the table too. But only since trump came to office in 2016.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think China has that many nukes tbh.

Don't get me wrong, I don't really want 600 nukes raining down on me, but it's mostly been a US vs Russia pissing contest.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If russias army and navy is in that bad condition, i do not want to know how they are maintaining as many nukes as US with less than 1/10th of the budged

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago

That's the neat part.jpg

BRICS. It is China too

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[–] Auth@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

This is a weak response from NATO. 19 drones and 2 jets flying into NATO airspace should have been enough to draw NATO into the war. Saying "hey dont do that again or their will be bare min consequences" is a nothing statement. Shooting down Russian Jets that have been in your airspace for 12mins should have been the default response at this point.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 84 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Less talk and more action please.

NATO member Turkey shot down a Russian jet some years ago, and the planet didn’t perish in a nuclear war, so we know we can do that.

[–] hunnybubny@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 day ago

Fairly sure it will happen. Balts and Poland are fed up enough.

Sikorsky is also known for not throwing words around.

Just a reminder Turkey shot down the nazi jet after

  1. Issuing an official note to the fascists that they will shoot it down

  2. russkies entering their airspace multiple times before.

  3. warning the pilot multiple times before it entered their airspace.

The decision to shoot it down did not come out of the blue.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 69 points 2 days ago

That really goes without saying. Turkey shut down a Russian jet that was fucking around. That is the only way they will learn. They are jetting around like they are the baddest mother fuckers in the air while their equipment is pretty lame.

[–] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If it's one thing the dicktasters... I mean dictators... of today do a lot of at a regular basis, it's whine. It's the mark of a little man. Pathetic.

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hey! We dicktasters don't like being associated with authoritarians

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 69 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The Russians claimed they have not been over NATO territory. If they come again, shoot them down and look where they land. Case closed.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

shoot them down and look where they land.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Russian_Sukhoi_Su-24_shootdown (map at 'The shootdown')

Doesn't work reliably for the Turkish incident. The crash site determines the path, but both crash sites are in Syria.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 37 points 2 days ago

The Russians claimed they have not been over NATO territory.

Only because they believe it should be their territory.

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[–] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I have this sneaking suspicion that this response might be in the Russian "plan". I have a feeling that the goal is to show that America won't lift a finger to stop them, and thereby break NATO and badly damage US power. If Poland downs a Russian jet, and Trump says "Hey! You guys have to be nice to Russia" it will read as Russia calling NATO's bluff while maintaining just enough plausible deniability to likely avoid even European countries from pushing for a real response.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

brought to you by the same master planners that thought they'd take Ukraine in a month

[–] saimen@feddit.org 26 points 1 day ago

You mean 3 days

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[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 54 points 2 days ago

Good for Poland. I'm tired of these Putinganda-fuckers "accidently" sending incursions into their neighbours' territories

[–] rustyfish@piefed.world 29 points 2 days ago (11 children)

I wonder how the vatniks will twist this into NATO being the bad guys again.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can see it now "more nato aggression! Of course russia needed to defend itself by invading a sovereign country!"

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago

"What was russia doing in NATO airspace?" "They just got lost! Jesus! Cant you take a joke?"

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[–] Siegehammer85@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago (3 children)

More words, to be followed by more incursions without action. We should have started shooting down Russian air-junk right from the first invasion in 2014. Historians will not be kind about floppy dicked Europe/NATO after it’s too late….

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nah, Poland is the one nation in Europe that's itching for a fight with Moscow. They've just been holding back.

They're ready to send troops to the frontlines of Ukraine last I heard.

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago

Without action? Come on. Drones went over Poland, shot down. Poland isn't really holding back, but it can't charge blindy either.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Vlad. Vlad. Don't be bad. Putin. Putin. Stop that shootin'.

[–] teft@piefed.social 23 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Fyi Vlad isn’t the diminutive of Vladimir. Vladimir is “shortened” to Vova or Volodya. Vlad is short for Vladislov.

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