Can't relate. I use shell all the time, and I always use spaces in file paths, especially to make sure scripts I make still work then
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i y'all just started using fish shell, you'd have proper shell completions and argument splitting that doesn't care about spaces in file names
My work has me working with Matlab Simulink paths, which may (and sometimes actually do) contain newlines.
I very intentionally have all my code in Personal Projects 🥰
and Work Projects 🏦
directories so I can find bugs in the handling of file paths.
at least you/arent/using\ linux
not sure why the default behavior is this:
file\ name\ with\ a\ bunch\ of\ spaces
instead of this:
"file name with a bunch of spaces"
but you can just press "
before pressing tab to auto-complete, and it will use the 2nd form
Because quoting requires token expansion (e.g. ~ to /home/you). Escaping gives you a much shorter path in that case.
That said I'm with you, full quoted paths read better to me.
I\ don\'t\ know\ what\ you\ mean,\ I\'ve\ never\ encountered\ any\ annoyances.
'I don\'t know what you mean, I\'ve never encountered any annoyances.'
Single quotes don't allow any escaping in shell, you need
'I don'\''t know what you mean, I'\''ve never encountered any annoyances'
Or, in Zsh with setopt rcquotes
:
'I don''t know what you mean, I''ve never encountered any annoyances'
it works in fish
Oh right, good catch. That's me shell scripting while in a meeting. 🫠
Good use of a meeting to be fair
Microsoft intentionally made programs install to C:\Program Files on Windows 95+ to force programmers to deal with spaces in filenames.
Someone make one of those "statements made by the utterly deranged" memes about it, please and thank you.
what is even more funny about this is that the name of that directory used to be locale-dependent, so in sweden it was just called "Program", completely nullifying that idea.
C:\Program Files
C:\Program Files (x86)
C:\ProgramData
C:\PROGRA~1
The fucking parenthetical x86 absolutely kills me. I don't normally wish dick cancer on people,
No this is just clever
Computers should just know when I want a space to be part of a file name, and when I want them to be argument separators. No more escaping or quoting.
The number of keystrokes needed to type an underscore is the same that you need to type backslash space, so I don't see how underscores are in improvement
I've recently learned that in Linux, you can use emois in filenames. I died a ~~little~~ lot inside when I learned that.
On Linux file systems you can use any character except NULL, and / is a reserved character.
E.g. on ext-4 "All characters and character sequences permitted, except for NULL ('\0'), '/', and the special file names "." and ".." which are reserved for indicating (respectively) current and parent directories."
I once accidentally created a file with a newline character in it... it was pretty tricky to fix from command line.
Arrest this person
This is absolutely haram
it was on accident, habibi, I swear 😁. I messed up some cmake code for preprocessing .txt ascii sprites into constants and accidentally created this abomination
unix filenames are just string of bytes, the operating system does not interpret it in anyway. this is a much saner approach compared to Windows where language settings can change file system behavior.
In filenames? AMATEURS! Use obscure Unicode in your passphrases for maximum security. Ctrl-Shift-U, enter arbitrary code point, bam! 🦊
Works even better with a Compose key and a nice, chonky .XCompose
file to throw some gr∑∑k letters around, for instance, like some confused script kiddie. :)
On topic: There are multiple variants of spaces in Unicode. You're welcome, and now go and create something utterly deranged with that information.
I still use spaces
agreed, "still worth it"
I do, however, tend to keep spaces out of my folder names so i can just use quotes at the end.
/Images/Halloween/Projections/"Creepy Crawlies.mp4"
Are you typing the whole filename by hand? Tab expansion exists, you know?
the struggle between spaces in filenames look cute and oh fuck what's the code to reference a space in a filename in terminal?
Just put the whole thing in quotes. You might have to escape extra sets of quotes, usually with a backslash.
Don't try svelte kit. This is pseudocode but it's valid. The only symbol show here that is not real is the / that I've placed at the end of folder to show that they are folders. There are other special cases
routes/
+page.ts
(admin)/
+page.ts
[user=uuid]/
[[community]]/
+page.ts
posts/
[...postIds@]/
+page.ts
sveltekit is beautiful (thanks for spreading the word)
Im trying it out yet. It seems fun, the tutorial is amazing. I don't think I'd want to do large enterprise projects with it
Have you noticed issues that you think would arrise at scale, etc for an enterprise project?
I'm using it for a small/medium sized project and it's great and has not got in the way once. Wondering how you feel, since I don't have experience with much enterprise code.
Oh. No. You win. Mine is a gut feeling that modeling all routes with folders would become a paid. To navigate and manage, while you have actual experience
smells like skill issue tbh
tools which cant handle being installed/run on directories with spaces are so annoying
tools which cant handle being installed/run on directories with spaces are unacceptably common
i think i am old. i grew up using DOS, and really hated spaces in filenames and folders because they appreared truncated at the first space with a tilde and index of that file/folder representation.
ex: C:\folder name is bad\ == C:\folder~1
i hated that so much that when i got to windows 3.1 i refrained from using spaces (some command line was still necessary in w3.1)
i have jept that habit through the years, so when i moved from windoes to linux, my natural instincts of snake_case_folder_names made it so i didnt have to change : D