Charlie Kirk Memorial

Yern idiot

Shooting is shooting. Gun go bang. People die.

I'm in the same boat. Nothing is worse than losing loved ones and an entire country to this cult. I wish that we could come together and take down the Cults and propaganda in the same way that we took action against Disney+.

I'm not downboating you myself, but - on one hand you're not technically wrong - the collection of facts about that day supports both statements

The point being made by the original poster is that this event isn't something shocking and unique, it's something that was statistically bound to happen.

Fox and their conservative sphere have been mastering the art of 'spin' for decades. That is, they've found that you can take a collection of facts and make any number of stories, just by changing which details are empathized. Indeed, they've made this about the attack, and have used it to advance their agenda. Your statement is a 'both sides' thing and that too plays into their hand - that's why you're being downvoted. This post is about changing the narrative, not just adding details to conservative spin.

Tis a joke

Evidence: the school shooting that happened on the same day

He also paid for buses of people to go to the January insurrection too. Don't sell his accomplishments short.

he was, was a podcaster that was passionate about his message

And his message was awful, and he was exploiting college kids to create controversial content for his social media business.

Because it has nothing to do with him and everything to do with any excuse to accelerate fascism.

Not defend Kirk, but you didnt hear it anywhere. But you would have read it plenty.

The actual quote is this: “You will never live in a society where you have an armed citizenry and you won’t have a single gun death. That is nonsense. It’s drivel. But ... I think it’s worth it. I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.”

He gave more context to his point of view here: “Having an armed citizenry comes with a price, and that is part of liberty. Driving comes with a price -- 50,000, 50,000, 50,000 people die on the road every year. That’s a price. You get rid of driving, you’d have 50,000 less auto fatalities. But we have decided that the benefit of driving -- speed, accessibility, mobility, having products, services is worth the cost of 50,000 people dying on the road. … We should have an honest and clear reductionist view of gun violence, but we should not have a utopian one.”

I personally dont like the analogy here, as it doesnt take into account that driving a car has lots of safe guards in place. You have to register your car in every state. You have to take lessons and pass a test in order to be able to drive. In some places in the US, you can just walk into a gun show, and walk out armed to the teeth with zero checks.

In any argument, details matter.

If it's a legitimate shooting, the body has ways of rejecting the bullet. He clearly wanted this. That's why he was acting so provocatively.