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That reminds me of an anecdote.
When I lived in Utah many years ago, we regularly had the visit of two colleagues from our London office. They would come and stay for a few days to work with us, and of course we entertained them in the evening.
One evening, we all decided to go for a curry. So we went to some Indian restaurant in Provo, UT if memory serves.
The waiters arrived - real Indians in full fake Raj regalia, as per the restaurant's theme - and took our orders.
Then they asked how spicy. The two Brits looked at each other and said in a low voice "Well, it's Utah, everything is bland here, so we'd better overdo it on the spiciness to get something halfway as spicy as a London curry."
So they announced "Nuclear."
"Are you sure?" the waiters said
"Yeah yeah. Nuclear!"
"Okay...."
15 minutes later, the waiters came back with our orders. Then instead of leaving, they turned and faced the two Brits and simply stood there with a total lack of expression on their faces.
The two went "Uh oh..."
It was the hottest curry they had ever had. They tried to put on a good show for the impassible waiters looking at them, but they quickly turned red and sweaty, and they had trouble not looking like they were panicking when reaching for the water.
We were pissing ourselves laughing π
I have essentially the same story, except it's two Americans visiting Bradford.
Australian chiming in.
My favourite Indian restaurant was this little hole in the wall place (for the first three years of operation, they upgraded when the word got out). The first time I went I ordered a Vindaloo, the lovely waitress/chef that took my order asked how spicy. I was a fool and said, I like spicy food, how about a 6 out of 10. I actually made it 3/4 of the way through but the owner/other chef came out to check on me, I think because he was worried I was about to combust. It was astounding, easily the best Vindaloo I have ever eaten.
The next time I went in I ordered a white guy 4, it honestly was still fantastic, but not as good. The owner came out to say hi, asked what I had ordered this time, and he said "Ah yes we make that without any chilli.", never been sure how I should take that. For a while I was hoping to gradually increase my tolerance but I think I am topping out at white guy 9.
Well then they were being stupid because obviously it's an actual authentic Indian restaurant they're going to do the spice properly.
Well, the logic was sound: Utah really is quite bland in every way - or at least it was in the 90's, not sure now - and if I was an Indian opening an Indian restaurant there, I'd tone down the spices to suit the local palates.
White Americans: mayonnaise is too spicy
Also white Americans: yeah the Carolina Butthole Annihilator goes well with pretty much everything
Is extra mild just tomato?
Isn't the human palette interesting. People enjoy the strangest flavors sometimes while others don't.
Kids love the sourest of candies, but won't eat cooked onions or red things. Adults by in large, don't like the same level of sour that children enjoy. But adults enjoy onions raw and often hot chili peppers. I'm fine with strong levels of heat in foods. But I see no reason to use insane levels of heat to try and prove how manly someone might be. I want to taste all the ingredients in the dish, not just one thing. Like Thanos and Buddhist monks, I strive for balance in all things flavor.
I enjoy flavors that most here would run screaming from. I love strong vinegary flavors. I enjoy oaky, tannic bourbons and teas. The iron and mineral flavors of organ meats. And I have noticed lately that I very much enjoy that taste of black pepper, like stupid amounts of it. I even found a small enjoyment of cranberries as I get older. But it's still all about the balance.
I'm much the same on most of this, but I very much still have a sweet tooth. The things I crave, my SO says are "too sweet".
And it's not that nothing is "too sweet" for me, or too sour, in that special way that candies can be sour... There's definitely stuff I've eaten that is too sweet (for me).... I just seem to have a much higher tolerance for it.
Though, I'm not a fan of organ meats. To be fair, I haven't had any recently enough to check if that's still the case.
But pepper is a bit of an addiction for me. I put that shit on just about everything... In quantities that make my SO get visibly uncomfortable.
The normal one isn't even spicy, my 3 year old can eat it, and could when she was 2.
That said, the Sainsbury's own fajita kit is superior.
Better yet, make you own fajita seasoning and use non UPF wraps.
What's upf?
Nothing f, what's up wit you?
GOT EM
Ultra Processed Foods. I should have written that in the first place rather than use the acronym, apologies!
The definition is a bit flakey but they're essentially foods that contain emulsifiers, stabilisers, modified starches and so on. Things that you wouldn't find in a domestic kitchen. But also foods that have undergone so much processing that they're barely food. There's growing evidence that they're driving obesity and driving a wide range of health problems and even mental health. It's eye opening how much of our food is UPF and quite difficult and expensive to get away from.
My mother has complained that saffron is too spicy. Yes we are melanin deprived why do you ask?
she might have an allergic reaction to it, same as people who describe kiwi fruit as spicy
British people happily eat hot curries so maybe extra mild is for grans or something. Even the mild salsa has almost zero heat on it.
The UK is actually generally fine with spicy food, but my relatives in Poland could barely handle mildly spicy food, so yeah
That is so funny. I do have an ex mother out-law who cannot eat onion because she says it's too spicy. She is somehow still a good cook.
I really like spicy food. Don't need everything to be spicy but I like the spicy stuff to be very spicy.
A. Yes, there are definitely people here in the UK who can't handle anything spicier than gravy.
B. They're in the minority.
C. I refuse to believe you don't know someone like that, no matter where you're from.
Its weird. Australians are badasses. Why can't they eat like badasses?
Am aussie and will say there are definately the 'pepper is hot' people but thee is also a healthy love of spice, we have a very multicultural food pallette here with a lot of asian influence in particular (thai, chinese, japanese, indian, etc). I like to put chilli sauce on EVERYTHING, i dont think there is a food i havent tried without chilli.
I legitimately can't tell the difference between their mildest and hottest. It's like 0.3% vs. 0.4% hot.
I find this to be the case for most "spicy" things targeting a western market. Firehouse Subs has a hot sauce bar where they rate the spiciness from 1 to 10. Normally I don't bother with it because the ones at the higher end tend to either be some spicy vinegar variation (ugh no thx), or pineapple based, which I'm usually not in the mood for.
Last time they had an 8 that wasn't either of those so I asked them to add a line to my sub as they made it.
It's like their 10 was targeted at jalapeno spiciness, maybe cayenne. The 8 did add some heat, but it was where I'd call it a medium, and a mild one at that.
Should use a logarithmic scale I guess. Just frustrating that spicy stuff always seems to be marketed for people who don't really like spice. The less generous side of me thinks it has to do with people wanting to act tough but are actually whiny losers who thinks it's the seller's fault they can't handle the heat they wanted to show off handling.
There are people who canβt handle spice - in Oz every curry house and pub serves Butter Chicken, which is somehow even milder than Tikka Massala, and even Madras often has cream in it. On the other hand curry houses in Bradford do tinderloo for when vindaloo just isnβt hot enough, which is just daft as a rogan josh is already decently spicy there.
I'd be quite surprised. The USA and Aus have quite a bit of spicy influence. India for UK, Thai for aus...sure many people don't like spicy food but most do.
I loved in UK for a bit and remember being quite surprised that fΓ st food, like burger king, had proper spicy food.
I swear there's probably more Indian restaurants in the UK than there is in India. Where I suppose they are just called restaurants.
I love spicy food, but my mum can't even handle black pepper. Lol. Lmao even
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