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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 98 points 6 days ago (4 children)

It’s a huge undertaking. If successful, it would be one of the largest land purchases in Hawaii, behind Larry Ellison’s nearly 90,000-acre acquisition on the island of Lanai.

How fucking sad that you can buy 90k acre for personal ownership. There is no reason any one person should own that much land.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 62 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It particularly infuriates me whenever I see someone claim that taxing billionaires would remove their incentive to participate in the economy. As though they’re going to say “if I work this year I’ll only be able to afford 40,000 acres, guess I’ll shut the company down”.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 5 points 6 days ago

Fuck those lies

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I think land ownership itself is one of the big mistakes we made as a species.

[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Where i live it personal land owners cut off access to water ways. There is a river not 5 minutes from my house however I cant access it cause it's all private land. Pretty sad

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It seems inevitable to me given how territorial people are. Not just people, other animals too. Like even chimps have different groups that control different territory.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Yes, but they don’t own it. Territory has to be used and protected. Ownership has some implication that even if no longer used, it is still “mine” and not the community’s. IDK, tough to see what could be as that branch in the development of civilization is so far back. Rutger Bregman has a segment about this in Humanity.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Capitalism claims to be about needs but it's really just about the wants of the wealthy.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 days ago

And the stupid that believe they will be equal at some point.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Especially in a small island chain.

[–] ScrambledEggs@lazysoci.al 101 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Buy back? Kick the billionaire out.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 54 points 6 days ago

Sounds like a time for eminent domain.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The billionaire doesn’t even live there, he lives in Hong Kong.

[–] hayvan@feddit.nl 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How about, just ignoring the ownership then.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Great way to start a war with China!

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Number of times China has invaded or armed right-wing militias or factions to put a puppet in place because they nationalized a natural resource: 0.

They would certainly try to sue the US in an international court that the US doesn't recognize, but lmao.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They would certainly try to sue the US in an international court that the US doesn't recognize

The US would recognize them if the US won.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 4 days ago

You would think, but the US basically left the WTO it basically controlled during Trump pt I

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 64 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Can't they just write a special law and annex the land? Ya know, sort of, like, how the US ~~stole~~, I mean, um, got, Hawaii in the first place?

[–] porksnort@slrpnk.net 16 points 6 days ago

Yeah, when the uber-rich write the laws in the first place, playing ‘fair’ and doing a direct purchase is a suckers move. Just take it back.

[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ikr. "Hawaiians unite to give billionaire more money"

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago

They're a giving people, the Hawaiians. A great match for taking people.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

And the billionaires still win somehow

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

This is bullshit, eminent domain has been used for a lot less worthy causes. The guy’s been absent for a decade, it’s rundown, not developed, abandoned buildings, looks like a hazard to the community.

[–] apenstaartje@lemmy.cafe 17 points 6 days ago

Billionaire decides not to sell.

Billionaire doubles price—gets rich off the poor, again.

Shitty move, Hawaii.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Dole food company eyeing this

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 6 days ago

If this Hong Kong company owns 1/3 of Molokai, Dole must own the other 2/3.