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double negative (infosec.pub)

submitted 5 days ago by NichEherVielleicht@feddit.org to c/politicalhumor@lemmy.world

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[–] josefo@leminal.space 1 points 4 days ago

Anti-anticommunist are communists?

[+] Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world -9 points 4 days ago (13 children)

Can yall not see this is exactly why they chose that name? Antifa. So they can immediately classify any opposition as fascists? It has worked very well too with many folks throwing around the slur of "fascists." All these folks havent suddenly turn fascist. Its a similar tactic that "black lives matter" used. If you say you are opposed to the movement of BLM, it can be spun easy that you oppose BLs. Its a stupid tactic used on stupid people by stupid people. But sure, it works, cuz stupid is as stupid does.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Can yall not see this is exactly why they chose that name?

Who is “they?”

Are “they” in this thread with us right now?

And while I don’t doubt that somebody somewhere does throw around the word “fascist” as a pejorative, it is generally used correctly when someone checks all the boxes. Right now, much of the US and a growing number around the globe, check all of the boxes.

[–] Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

check all of the boxes.

You should go look at the literal definition of "fascism" again. I can admit it "checks some boxes", but not the most important ones.

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[–] Zwrt@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

This is why i have contemplated to make a shirt with:

Anti

Pro

Love

Most fascists would be to stupid to read it right

[–] Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world -4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

How about this, i am anti anti(x999)fascist. Can you tell if im a fascist or not?

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[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (14 children)

Ok, listen up kids. The anti prefix is not a logical negation. So double anti is not the same as no anti. Let's give an example.

A gun is a device intended for self defense. So you can call it an anti-murder device. If you are anit-gun, therefore anti-anti-murder device, it does not mean you are pro murder. You may be anti-murder and still believe there are too many disadvantages to a gun.

Idk why I, a non-native speaker have to be explaining this.

Of course, anti-anti-facist are probably just facist. I am just saying double anti is not always the same as no anti, not that it is never the case.

EDIT: Since the example seems to be confusing people, let's give a different one. If I am anti-anti-LGBTQ, does that make me LGBTQ? Obviously not. Opposing hate does not change my gender or sexual orientation.

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip -2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

As funny as it is, and as much as your elementary school English teacher enforced it, this isn't actually how the English language works. If I'm anti-anti-abortion that doesn't mean I'm trying to make people have abortions, for example. It could mean anywhere from being against a total ban to the furthest range of trying to force them in every case on everyone.

(Trump is a fascist though.)

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