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Wiki - The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually ceased or destroyed by the intolerant. Karl Popper described it as the seemingly self-contradictory idea that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must retain the right to be intolerant of intolerance.

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[–] Ummdustry@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

I dislike the framing of this, specifically:

"When we extend tolerance to those who are openly intolerant the tolerant ones end up being destroyed"

Implies that the intolerant are guarenteed victory. I vehemently disagree that this is true, and therefore would argue tolerating the bad actors is often a necessary evil to ensure that good actors are not unjustly censored. The risk of 'another hitler' is accepted this way of course but unless we as a society can demonstrate (if at all) that risk would be mitigated by the censorship of hate speech we have no good cause.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

The "tolerant" can also be intolerant. They don't recognize their own intolerance.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Let’s put it plainly.

If you tolerate something, it is implicit you disapprove of, or disagree with, the subject requiring tolerance.

People exhibiting behavior necessitating said tolerance know this. And they don’t like any reminders that just maybe they might be really, really wrong and there are people willing challenge their behavior but are holding back.

So instead of changing their behavior, they eliminate the challenge to their behavior.

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[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

The paradox of the paradox: there wouldn't be a paradox if the philosopher wouldn't be stuck in the logic of a limited model and a distorted assumption about growth.

Only because there exists the possibility that a movement can grow doesn't mean that it will grow.

Intolerance is also not real, like the war on hunger. There is no enemy, but instead there are people to feed.

This leads all to a simple answer that hides that 'let' s give them a chance' was driven by intolerance for socialists and communists, which should ring a bell.

People are so proud that they are allowed to hate the right enemy that they don't ask what those humans actually need to become friends. (Which doesn't mean apeacement!)

*edit: could the downvoters please leave a note and state where they disagree, please?

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