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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

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Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Haaretz: 2nd U.S. Aircraft Carrier has been deployed to the Eastern Mediterranean.

” U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said that "The increases to U.S. force posture signal the United States' ironclad commitment to Israel’s security and our resolve to deter any state or non-state actor seeking to escalate this war."

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

CNN has an onscreen graphic for a family with a hostage held by Hamas and it includes: #HamasIsIsis

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

The flag that was raised over the IDF base that was attacked was a red Hezbollah flag. Anyone have any information on its use? Also wondering what the red headbands are? I've used red headbands to ID marxists among the Palestinian forces but I have no idea what groups use red headbands among Hezbollah.

Not sure if this is an old picture or not, for the record.

Actual picture of the flag raised:

And video confirmation:

https://streamable.com/jt2u9d

This was the Al-Rahab military position of the IDF.

EDIT:

Hoisted flag might not be Hezbollah.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (4 children)

https://streamable.com/mkzee9

Israeli military releases video of logistics loading US-made Mark 84 2000kg JDAM bombs onto fighters.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

Elizabeth Warren spews out lib speak.

Democracies like the United States and Israel must uphold the rule of law and protect innocent civilians. As Israel responds to Hamas's terrorist attacks, it must minimize civilian harm, including to Palestinian children, Israeli hostages, and U.S. citizens.

Nitter

What's great about these sorts of tweets is that it sounds like she's a concerned nobody with zero political power. Like she's still a college professor. The first sentence is so weird. She makes it seem that some unnamed country is doing the slaughter and Israel could be a force for good to get them to stop. Also Israel is already committing war crimes so politely pleading for them to behave ain't exactly going to work.

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From another thread

Remember a few years ago when a reporter asked her about Israel and she literally just ran away?

What? Does anybody have a link for that? I gotta see it!

Edit 1

Apparently it was in 2014.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren, 1, ducks question on Gaza, 2, plans trip to Israel, and 3- - Mondoweiss

August 14, 2014

Here is a defining moment: Senator Warren running away, at Netroots on July 18, when a reporter asked her about the Gaza slaughter.

The Youtube embed is "video not available".

Edit 2

PointAndClique found it for me.

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (6 children)

So how's r/combatfootage doing since they banned footage from the Palestinian side, must get boring exclusively watching videos of screaming children and wailing parents

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

https://www.thepeninsula.org.in/2023/01/25/world-war-3-has-already-started-between-us-and-russia-china-argues-french-scholar/

‘World War 3 has already started’ between US and Russia/China, argues French scholar

Ben Norton reviews the interview given by the prominent French Scholar, Emmanuel Todd. The interview was in French and published in the major French newspaper ‘Le Figaro’. Emmanuel Todd argues the Ukraine proxy war is the start of WWIII, and is “existential” for both Russia and the US “imperial system”, which has restricted the sovereignty of Europe, making Brussels into Washington’s “protectorate”.

Does anyone have the article where Ben Norton does this? I caught this headline and this article is certainly interesting but I'd like to see his full take.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Today in jesus-christ shit

I cannot confirm anything about this. I don't know what it describes actually happened, if the video is from this week, or anything. It just reminds me of a story during the Vietnam War where a bunch of College kids went around their campus for a week putting up fliers saying the were going to burn a dog to death, and when all the enraged Amerikkkans showed up outraged about the dog burning the kids were like "There's no dog you dorks, American is setting kids of fire with napalm every day! you cared when you thought there was a dog, you should care when it's human beings!"

Nitterlink (No dogs are harmed it's just some Israelis picking up dogs off the street, and there's an IDF soldier for a few seconds.)

The dog sitting calmly in the shot up van does look... uh... staged. But whatever, who knows, propaganda is propaganda.

Kinda looks like this is some Hindutva account using the war in Palestine to smear Muslims. Not an angle I'd considered but I guess it makes sense they would.

here's another video I found CW: cats and people in danger but no one is shown being injured. A bomb goes off outside of an apartment and the people and cat inside startle

I wonder if Westernauts would change their minds if they saw cats in danger, our would just villify Palestinians for "putting cats in danger".

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[–] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Went to bed hoping that there would be something that had changed meaningfully: military intervention, major Palestinian operations in the West Bank, government shaking protest, declaration of embargo, or at least a successful delivery of humanitarian supplies.

I guess it's still Friday...

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago

I wonder what kind of tunnels hamas have down there.

If I had decades to tunnel under Gaza I'd have at least one vehicle sized tunnel that runs the whole strip for quick movement. If tunnels get discovered they can easily be trapped to collapse so the threat of anyone taking it over and using it as a means to get to your main fortress underground is basically zero.

It would be like an artery with many veins running off it.

[–] Vode_An@lemmy.ml 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Unconfirmed reports of a downed f-16. There seems to be video of it being tracked by a missile and popping flares before appearing to be hit and start going down. Another video that appears to show the parachuting pilot.

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago

More than two million people are at risk in Gaza as water runs out, the UN agency for Palestine refugees (UNRWA) has warned.

“It has become a matter of life and death. It is a must; fuel needs to be delivered now into Gaza to make water available for 2 million people,” Philippe Lazzarini, the UNRWA commissioner-general said in a statement.

“Clean water is running out in Gaza, after its water plant and public water networks stopped working. People are now forced to use dirty water from wells, increasing risks of waterborne diseases,” the statement said.

[–] darkmode@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Xi Jinping: Two major countries should work together for progress

Schmuck Coomer: ISRAELISRAELISRAELISRAEL ISRAELISRAELISRAELISRAEL ISRAELISRAELISRAELISRAEL ISRAELISRAELISRAELISRAEL ISRAELISRAELISRAELISRAEL ISRAELISRAELISRAELISRAEL ISRAELISRAELISRAELISRAEL ISRAELISRAELISRAELISRAEL ISRAELISRAELISRAELISRAEL le-monke

https://twitter.com/MotulX22/status/1711401424784093512

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago

https://streamable.com/iooarn

Hamas released 1 woman from Gaza with 2 young children, who were taken to Gaza on October 7. Nothing is known about any agreements yet. Negotiations regarding the hostages are being conducted through Egypt

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

On Monday, I set the comment Over/Under at 5250. Using a straight-line forecast, we are currently on track for 6200. Given the increasing sense that things are going to pop off after Friday prayer, I am upping the O/U to 7000 comments.

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[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Drones Blackout the Sun.

Azincourt!

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (3 children)

3,000 comments lets fuckin do it, today is a day of histroy lets-fucking-go

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Kier Starmer getting covered in glitter on live TV

https://streamable.com/fom7np

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[–] DivineChaos100@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Uhhh can someone link the videos of the firefight/tanks on the music festival? I'm fed up and yelling at a domestic "factchecking" site and im curious if they'll try to "factcheck" it or just ignore it altogether

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[–] Melina@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago
[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Will the bombings get more intelligent if the US takes over command and intelligence for the Israeli army?

Are they likely to stop just indiscriminately bombing the crap out of everything and actually target military targets instead? Seems like Israel are honestly wasting a shit load of resources on mindlessly assaulting civilians and any competent leadership would get this toned down and focused on real targets of value rather than this chest beating shit they're doing.

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