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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Dr. As'ad Abu Sharia, Secretary-General of the Mujahideen Movement:

If the zionist enemy threatens Gaza with a ground invasion, we remind you of what happened in 2014, the defeat and humiliation of your army and soldiers. Imagine what will happen to you now in 2023.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

At least 2 incidents today of IDF shooting settlers in friendly fire incidents where they mistook settlers for palestinians today.

Censored video:

https://streamable.com/5fbhvc

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Maduro says that he spoke with the president of the Palestinian Authority, Abbas, about the situation in Gaza and says that he will send 30 tons of humanitarian aid.

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[–] LibsEatPoop@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (17 children)

Ethan Klein on Israel-Palestine live right now.

Edit: THE FOLLOWING ARE ALL ETHAN AND HILA'S WORDS.

He's currently complaining about "lefties" saying "I stand with Palestine" after the Hamas "terrorist attack". Even before "Israel hasn't done anything, just counting dead bodies."

He also said "unprovoked" but cut that out.

He and Hila talking about how hard it is to explain to people what "people went through" how people lost their entire families etc. That's "barbaric" and "disgusting." This is people's "hate for Israel" leading them to support "Hamas terrorism".

And that these people they killed weren't even "settlers" because they left in 2005. "There's no settlements around Gaza."

He compares it to trying to support Iraqi terrorists after we [America] killed a million of them and that you wouldn't do that. You wouldn't support a 1000 Iraqis invading LA.

"I stand with Palestine too" but you wouldn't say something like that after 9/11.

They say "this is their only recourse" and that "this is self-defence" but this not that. They went to a block and murdered kids, desecrated bodies, burnt people alive. You can "stand with Iraq [Palestine] and also condemn Hamas which people don't wanna do."

And Hamas is not "freedom fighters". They terrorize Palestinians under their rule.

WHEN A COMMENTATOR BRINGS UP ISRAEL DOING THE SAME, Ethan says he's not denying that AND HILA SAYS "I AM DENYING THAT."

Ethan continues you still won't be in favor of an Iraqi terrorist cell coming and killing everyone in your neighborhood. America killed a million Iraqis, a lot more than Israel has killed Palestine, so okay you go and volunteer for an Iraqi terrorist to slaughter you and your mom.

He agrees Gaza is an open air prison and then says that chatter should sacrifice his family to Iraqi terrorists if he cares about freedom so much.

He's nauseated by the callousness and support for violent terrorists online. When someone says "Ethan please learn more", Hila says he lived there for five years and married an Israeli. He knows more than some American. And Ethan repeats that the commenter should let Iraqi terrorist murder his family.

Let's say a group of Native Americans terrorists leave the reservation and burning people, killing kids etc, would you say "I support Native Americans" at that moment? That they should be allowed to kill and rape everyone who was born in America? Hila says "no, she would fight for her family and her home." Reminder, she was in the IDF.

Prominent lefties on Twitter are callous cowards are Ethan's main enemies right now.

Hila says these people don't understand what people grieving in Israel are feeling right now. None of them know what to expect or how long this war will last. And anyone saying "Free Palestine" right now is saying "I support Hamas."

700 people were murdered and lefties are going "Let's go Hamas!"

You don't need to murder 700 innocent people, including kids to protest occupation.

Cheering on Hamas right now isn't going to bring peace. What's going to happen to Gaza now is an invasion and it's going to be horrible for them.

I've seen people I like and follow do Hamas propaganda like Mia Khalifa saying "this is a renaissance painting to a pic of Hamas terrorists." Side note - She isn't a good, based progressive either.

After like an hour of criticizing lefties on Twitter, he says "there's equally psychotic takes on the right" before going back to trying to find "Lefties" supporting Hamas like Matt Lech "liking" a tweet about the girl taken by Hamas being given water.

Then he says "Hamas is going to now start murdering civilians one at a time on TV".

When someone says Israel is saying they will level Gaza he says "that's psychotic too" but then turns it back to how that doesn't mean you support should Hamas. "Israel is bad too" right now just means you support Hamas.

"I don't need to talk about Israel's horrible things, I've done that."

Now Netanyahu is going to gain support and do a full invasion and he blames people saying "I support Palestine" right after a terrorist attack as the reason for it.

If I'm not "woke" enough, then go surrender yourself to ISIS.

If he and Hasan disagree on anything, then that means Hasan is a Hamas supporter.

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[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Western freedoms make sense once you apply a minor correction.

In the west, we have

The freedom of the oppressor’s speech

The freedom of the oppressor’s religion

The freedom of the oppressor’s press

The oppressor’s right to assemble

The oppressor’s right to a fair trial

The oppressor’s right to bear arms

The oppressor’s right to life, liberty, and happiness

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[–] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago (4 children)

One of my new least favorite words now is "fluid".

Example: "There was never a firm commitment by the Israelis and the situation is fluid..."

The border is open. The border is closed. Go to the border or else!

Meanwhile there's a 100 truck convoy of aid trucks from Egypt at the border. Will the border open for them? Who knows. The situation is fluid.

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[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago (7 children)

anyody got a video of the storming of the IDF barracks ? or some inside on how they did it ?

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[–] TheOtherwise@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago

Someone posted earlier about isreal paying families to move into settlements. Anyone have any further reading on that?

rat-salute

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

https://streamable.com/gexna2

Ambush training video with the message:

🟢 Martyr Izz El-Din Al-Qassam Brigades:

A message to the ground forces: This is what awaits you when you enter Gaza.

These close range ambush tactics from tunnels might work well tbh.

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[–] Leper_Messiah@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Goddamn what is this feeling? Is it... hope?

palestine-strong

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

https://streamable.com/cyvuxq

DeSantis calls Palestinians (semites) antisemitic.

American education and understanding of the world. Antisemitic just means "anti jew" to this man.

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[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago (4 children)

West Journalsit are Terroist . Genocidal Maniacs. they should be considered legitimate enemy targets. What differenciantes them from a soldier is only that a soldier can never do the harm they do. all those in here are save , the others should be seen as Intelligence Assets , same goes fucking Celebreties like Sean Penn and Mark Hamil....

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[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago (5 children)
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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Jfc i wanna chuck an NPR foreign correspondent out of a second floor window rn

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[–] Pseudoplatanus22@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Apparently 6 Hezbollah fighters have been killed by Israeli shelling, and they're now gathering near the Golan Heights

link: https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/1711450917369770278

🟢 Hamas: — The occupation's massacre against families displaced under bombing is a heinous crime that only increases our people's determination to adhere to their land.

The horrifying massacre committed by the zionist occupation against the displaced people from our Palestinian nation in the steadfast Gaza Strip, which claimed 70 martyrs, including children and women, and left more than 200 wounded and injured, reveals the extent of its lies, deception, and misleading. This comes after suspicious calls it made for our people to leave their homes, only for them to be directly targeted in a heinous crime that will forever stand as evidence of its terrorism and aggression.

In the face of the ongoing war of annihilation that the occupation wages against our people in the steadfast Gaza Strip, we, in the Hamas movement, affirm that these crimes and systematic violations, in light of American and Western complicity and bias, and their double standards policy in dealing with our just cause and the legitimate rights of our people, will not succeed in breaking the will of our people who stand united with their resistance, rejecting all forms of displacement and expulsion from their land.

Islamic Resistance Movement - Hamas
Saturday: 29 Rabi' Al-Awwal 1445 AH
Corresponding to: October 14, 2023

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (14 children)

For those who were politically aware in 2001, How does the current media reporting on Muslims compare to post-9/11?

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