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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

http://kcna.kp/en/article/q/4064760de4a6f2a19390c74c1d09caeb.kcmsf

Pyongyang accused Japan of preparing to invade DPRK.

Military expenditures that break records every year, armament with offensive, state-of-the-art military equipment, including an aircraft carrier and the latest stealth fighters, and the completion of military operational training in the fields of space, cyberspace, electromagnetic waves are all aimed at preparing for the conduct of aggressive war,

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[–] Kaputnik@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just last week the media in Canada was talking about how the Conservative Party had a new base of support in Muslim immigrants as they both opposed inclusion of LGBT issues in education. (How much of this support was real versus manufactured by the media I can't say). This led to a lot of liberals showing their true colours, dehumanising and insulting Muslims in Canada. But now with the Palestine conflict coming front and centre in the media cycle, I wonder if the inherent split between the Conservatives' interests and their supposed base of Muslim support has become apparent faster than expected. While many conservatives never stopped being xenophobic I think pundits were hoping they could keep it on the down low until the next election. However with many Canadians publically making calls for genocide in Palestine, that ship has sailed

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[–] GayTuckerCarlson@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The mega is going to be so hype when Israel uses a tac nuke against Iran in 2025

party-cat Posting party agony-shivering

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

UN has moved its operations. Can't say the same for the 1.1million civilians they told to move though.

UN people seem pissed.

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[–] SoloboiNanook@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Thousands of Jordanians march to Palestine's border. Jordan security forces tear gas them.

https://vxtwitter.com/QudsNen/status/1712746611518873623

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[–] edge@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (4 children)

https://streamable.com/qzwesg

Ukrainian POW talks about Azov and various other "police" battalions being posted behind the front lines as blocker groups with orders to shoot anyone attempting to surrender.

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[–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (11 children)

I'm not even sure how I ended up here. One minute I was disproving some factually incorrect lib takes about China on Reddit (and got banned from r/worldnews for citing actual data, I guess), then I started following the Ukraine conflict and wondering why the news stories went from "OORAH we're pushing to the sea by the winter" to "oh look at me we took another tree line but the Russians are definitely still losing more men despite being in a defensive position against, at best, an equal attacker," then somehow I ended up on Lemmy where people were posting more demonstrably and factually incorrect comments, and now this Palestine conflict just has American media lying through their teeth.

Were things just better in Canadian media because Canadians don't care as much about foreign affairs (we have no influence anyway and propagandizing us is sort of uselesss)? Has American media always been this bad? Is it just conflict-driven propaganda? Chinese online communities aren't this one-sided, either. Is something just wrong with America?

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[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (4 children)

According to the Finnish government an "external actor" has sabotaged a gas pipeline and a communications cable between Finland and Estonia.

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (12 children)

CNN showed a picture of the dead baby might be a reactionary source idk, CW for possible dead baby and it's not very convincing? I don't want to be callous, but the picture could be from literally anywhere and no one has verified anything. This propaganda war is so fucking slimy and CNN is just as complicit in racism against Muslims and also stoking antisemitism as any Fox News or OANN

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[–] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (4 children)

6k comments. Truly there are decades with a week of posting, and weeks with decades of posting.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I was arguing in a music thread at another site. The topic was tangentally the Gaza war. Out of the blue he wrote...

Remember those eeediots who painted the Ukrainian flag on their cheeks to show sympathy? I once questioned one of them and he responded by spitting on me. I lost my stibs and gave him a good beating. I had to pay a fine and I still have community work to do. That's what I get for putting the assholes in their place.

I replied with "Thank you for your service?" Nobody at that site even knows what CTH means so I wondered how he'd take it. I don't know but the argument ended. I think in the end - he didn't even want to argue. He just wanted to vent. But it's hard/impossible to know what's going on that at that site. Maybe he was drunk or very high when he wrote "I lost my stibs" so he meant "I lost my shit". I had to edit the entire quotation to make it easier to read but I left stibs in for color.

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[–] TheGamingLuddite@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Zealot" originally described a first century movement of Jewish religious radicalism against hostile, genocidal Roman forces. Religious Zealotry in the face of annihilation is as justified today as it was then. No equivocation, no excuses.

There are still Jews today, but the Romans have long since cannibalized themselves.

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm watching videos that purport to be Kornet ATGMs fired at Merkavas in Palestine during the current offensive. From the video it's not possible to tell of the vehicle was superficially damaged, disabled, or hard-killed, but regardless this really has been a banner year for breaking down the belief in western military invincibility.

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[–] CoralMarks@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Nearing 700 posts in less than 24 hours.

This is gonna be an incredible week.

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[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Remember Lord Miles, that British dude who got captured by the Taliban because he thought it would be neat to see the fall of Kabul? He fuckin lived.
His friends kept posting that he was chilling and playing videogames under house arrest and they were actually telling the truth

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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (7 children)

lets get the news mega to 6k comments soon, because i think its slowly killing the site right now

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[–] FakeNewsForDogs@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (4 children)

On the one hand, if the U.S. navy gets involved, that really would not bode well for the resistance. On the other, what can they do really that idf can’t accomplish already with its own genocide equipment (albeit less effectively) Ground war is gonna be a slog regardless. On yet another hand, if somehow a carrier gets hit… that would really be something.

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (14 children)
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[–] gregheffley@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The empire is crumbling and boy are we dancing in the rubble

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[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (6 children)
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[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Narrativewise , Israels genocide is gonna get more apparent any day that passes from the "40 baby atrocity propaganda blitz" while israel produces industrial scale massacres on the altar of its injured ego. Now to "Change the picture" of Bombenholocaust on victims that cant even escape , israel needs to go in with groundforces . But "Going in" is a extremly high gamble. Bakmuth was 100.000 inhabitans , and it consumed the armour and ordinance of a middle sized nation.

Gaza is 2 million , the IDF, whos army just failed in the most spectacular way to even patrol the KZ fence.. , might just be devoured in it.. especially given the advances in dronewar smallarms etc.. So loose face (not go in & do scared revengebombing on children ) or go in and be devoured in this City..

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Senior Iraqi political figure threatens to target U.S. interests if it backs Israel

"If they intervene, we would intervene...if the Americans intervened openly in this conflict...we will consider all American targets legitimate … and we will not hesitate to target it," al-Amiri said during a tribal gathering in Baghdad on Monday night.

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[–] Flinch@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

goku-halal death to america, the sooner the better

[–] Teekeeus@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

here comes the post-meeting sanctions/restrictions that the yanks love to drop on china

Do americans ever think that simultaneously antagonizing multiple nations across the globe might eventually turn out badly for them

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[–] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hamas airborne division fancam set to LMFAO party rock

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[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Umayyads should not have stopped at Pyrenees

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[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Fuck it, I'm Settlersmaxxing now.

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[–] super_mario_69@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (5 children)

A gas pipeline (and some kind of data cable) that runs between Finland and Estonia was apparently damaged, possibly "sabotaged". No one knows shit, but investigations are ongoing. As usual the warhawks have already blamed the Russians. https://yle.fi/a/74-20054419

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

sounds like the Lebanon-Israel border is heating up

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Holy shit the things the Israelis do to arabic dead bodies I fucking won't post that shit but oh my fucking god I can't not fucking say that is some of the most depraved shit I have ever seen seen. I literally haven't seen actual real nazis behave this way to corpses.

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[–] IceWallowCum@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reports of paragliders carrying militants in northern Israel

The paragliding supersoldiers have arrived on scene

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