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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago

"It will be a bloodbath on a Biblical scale, jack. And I'm fine with that. I'm Joe Biden and I approve this carnage."

Hours after Israel ordered an exodus in Gaza, State Department officials circulated internal warnings against 3 phrases:

  • "de-escalation/ceasefire"
  • "end to violence/bloodshed"
  • "restoring calm"

It's the latest sign the US won't urge Israeli restraint

Nitter

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Propaganda and SEO manipulation - name a tastier combo. You can't!

The US and Israel say they have no concrete evidence Iran was behind Hamas' unprecedented attack on Israel but ⁦this must-read...

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[–] newmou@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh hey a Wikipedia page that has yet to be rewritten with Zionist propaganda!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

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[–] wheresmysurplusvalue@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Today my Finnish coworker messaged me out of the blue to ask if I heard about the Balticconnector pipeline and data cable being damaged. They "already know" it's Russia and that Russia also did the Nordstream explosions. It got pretty uncomfortable when I gave a vague answer "geopolitics is crazy, it's been a year and everyone is still just pointing fingers at each other about Nordstream." and I could feel they were very close to calling me a Russia bot.

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[–] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (13 children)

Holy fuck. I have no way of verifying whether this is real (the Instagram account is set to private now) but:

A famous pastry chef from Tel Aviv expressed his attitude to Zelensky with an original cake. He baked a cake in the shape of a gallows on which Vladimir Zelensky is hanged. According to Avi Melamedzon, the high level of corruption of the Zelensky government led to the fact that Ukrainian weapons were transferred to Hamas. And so the pastry chef expressed his anger.

(CW: Cake of a hanged Zelensky)

https://old.reddit.com/r/RussianWarFootage/comments/1764sp7/the_jerusalem_post_avi_melamedson_the_most_famous/

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[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (16 children)

im sorry but the regular mega is about to expire and i need this opinion out there.

like its fuckin UNUSUAL that Star Wars has versions that override the original versions, right? name one other series that has engaged in such aggressive revisionism on early entries. i cannot think of a single film from the 1970s which you are legally obliged to view with CGI from decades since it was released. fucking ridiculous.

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[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

ONWARD TO 6000 COMRADES! MOSCOW IS BEHIND US!

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[–] LargePenis@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Our legend Gunther Fehlinger dropped his most confusing tweet yet

"I call all law abiding Palestinians to come to European Union 🇪🇺

We can make entry declaration

Who signs a EU sentry, anti Hamas declaration & rejects terrorism can come to EU to get asylum & live with us in safety forever ♾

Rest I guess will be crashed by Israel 🇮🇱 #ExGaza"

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[–] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Honestly the biggest mistake of Zionism is not understanding the holy land is Long Island.

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[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago

Lebanon-Israel border is most definitely hot right now.

https://streamable.com/6n2cte

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (12 children)

A couple minutes ago Jake Tapper was talking about the US desire to create a "humanitarian corridor" for "innocent Palestinians". It was the first time I heard an American network news anchor or reporter use the word "innocent" in terms of Gazans even though they've surely used that word 1,000s of times for Israelis.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (8 children)

But, Jake, Israel has been at war for days....

Oh, right. You mean the Nova music festival.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

11/10 I've been off for half the day. Gonna use this comment for a surge of updates. Will edit as I go.

Egypt and Iran agree to work together to provide medical and humanitarian aid to the people of Gaza

Palestinian drone strikes today: [sirens, not strikes, cause of sirens unknown]

Missiles from Lebanon today:

It seems that Hezbollah launched a massive wave of UAVs at Northern Israel

Israeli Channel 12: Manned paragliders were observed entering from Lebanon!

Asking all residents to shut down and hide into shelters and not leave

Armed fighters blow up the Lebanese border fence and enter Israel from the north

Israeli red alert system, Red Alerts across the entirety of Northern Israel.

The American embassy in Lebanon is being evacuated.

American citizens are advised to leave Lebanon as soon as possible.

Alleged weapons cache captured by IDF:

An F-7 HE-Frag rocket (made by #NorthKorea/#DPRK 🇰🇵), TBG-7V thermobaric rocket (made by #Iran 🇮🇷), PG-7M rockets, PG-7V rocket Chinese Type 69 RPG Launchers, Type 56-1 rifle and HAMAS-made M26A2 pattern grenades can be seen.

https://twitter.com/war_noir/status/1712132427408183713

Flares fired border with Lebanon (notice how these are nothing like the white phosphorous munitions, keep the difference in mind) - https://streamable.com/4oy62x


Ok so pretty much all of the above has now turned into "there are no strikes from Lebanon, we made it up, we made a mistake" from Israel????????????? wut


https://streamable.com/h4j70f

John Kirby confirms the USS Dwight D Eisenhower carrier strike group will be headed to the Mediterranean but says it will not join the USS Gerald R. Ford strike group as a second strike group, but will be available in the area if needed.

(called it, this is going to go to iran imo)

John Kirby: We're refurbishing some Iron Dome interceptors from our inventory in Israel‌‌

John Kirby: Civilians in Gaza are not responsible for what Hamas did‌‌"


Turkish army is attacking Rojava


[needs verification] Pakistan says it will provide missile support to Hamas if Israel invades Gaza


Fuck, removed some things because I was scrolled back in one of my feeds and not posting up to date stuff.


American Delta Force and SEAL Team Six said to assist the IDF in finding and extracting American hostages in upcoming Gaza incursion. - Levant Kemal

Channel 12 says Israel considering either seizing Gaza or not doing it but invading anyway just to look strong and then withdraw.

Hezbollah Statement:— We were not surprised at all by the political positions and field actions (https://t.me/PalestineResist/14375) taken by the American administration, especially the recent statements of the US President in openly supporting the zionist killing machine and aggression against the Palestinian people. This is the true essence of the complete American policy in its continuous support for aggression and terrorism since the establishment of this usurping occupying entity.

We consider the United States to be a full partner in zionist aggression, and we hold it fully responsible for the killings, crimes, siege, destruction of homes and houses, and horrifying massacres against innocent civilians, including children, women, and the elderly.

We call on the masses of our Arab and Islamic nation, which knows the ugly truth of America and its aggression against the peoples of our nation in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan, to condemn the American intervention along with its international and regional partners and to expose this intervention at all political, popular, media and legal levels and in various regional and international forums and gatherings.

Sending aircraft carriers to the region with the aim of raising the morale of the enemy and its frustrated soldiers reveals the weakness of the zionist military machine despite the crimes and massacres it commits, and thus its need for continuous external support to provide this temporary usurping entity with the means of life. Therefore, we affirm that this step will not frighten the peoples of our nation or the factions.

The resistance is ready for confrontation until final victory and complete liberation is achieved.

https://streamable.com/sbl1sf

Palestinian ambassador for the United Nations addressed the international community and asked them to take responsibility and step into the picture to put and end to the slaughter of the Palestian people and send urgent humanitarian aid to avid a looming catastrophe, the Palestian National Authority is working for a cease fire and the reopening of the Egyptian border to allow humanitarian aid in the Gaza strip.


Ok I think that catches up on half the day, or at least close to it. Gonna go back to normal posting.

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[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

Israel is done for i think, they are too weak to fullfill the desires of their Hate on Gaza. But to fucking mental and done for to not try , or ragingly demand it from the IDF . Pretty sure the Moral really is rock bottom in the IDF , because most of them also understood that "they are the baddies" and also that they most probably gonna die when they enter Gaza. Taking Gaza might something that the "great Regional Power Israel" considered and planned , but its something that "small regional power Israel" can not afford to do or risk.

Edit: arnt the most fanatic jews / settlers spared from conscription or something ?

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[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

I'm not serving if I get drafted.

EDIT: amending my comment to avoid using the word I was actually called by someone in college in a derogatory manner.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago

RPG hitting a Merkava https://streamable.com/g9hwxv

So much for the active defence system? It didn't even attempt to counter fire to stop it.

[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago

False alarm on the drone swarm from Lebanon thing.

Just shows how on edge everyone is.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago

Hezbollah says it sucessfully targeted and disabled Zionist cameras and technical equipment in the settlement of Metula

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (5 children)

American companies are whack #2.

Dana Walden, co-chairman of Disney Entertainment, sent a staff-wide memo this morning on Hamas' attack on Israel.

"Tomorrow marks one week since the world changed forever with the worst attack on the Jewish people since the Holocaust,"

Nitter

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[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

For folks out there who are concerned about using massive surveillance platforms and military contractors like Google to perform machine translation of sensitive and potentially "illegal" statements, consider LibreTranslate. It is a free software machine translation system you can run on your own machine. It does not require an Nvidia GPU like many other AI systems, nor does it send your requests to the internet for remote processing.

You can try it here, but if you want the benefit of privacy, you must install it on your own computer.

edit: fixed link

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[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"There are decades where weeks happen and weeks where decades happen but boy fucking howdy this is like 3 centuries in the last 4 fuckin days"

-Vladmir Lenin

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (4 children)

https://streamable.com/qzwesg

Ukrainian POW talks about Azov and various other "police" battalions being posted behind the front lines as blocker groups with orders to shoot anyone attempting to surrender.

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[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago

Xi or Putin please declare a military operation on Israel

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

UN has moved its operations. Can't say the same for the 1.1million civilians they told to move though.

UN people seem pissed.

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[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Believing that Hamas can do a genocide in Israel is in literal terms delusional or dishonest, a group thats at best funded in secret by countries already heavily dedicated to other causes and problems, is not going to be able to do a genocide against the country and people that is funded by literally the most powerful countries in the world, it just is not something that will happen, the US alone could probably send about a billion trillion planes and ships to evacuate the whole country, except the solution obviously will actually be for those planes and ships to completely destroy the whole people of palestine first instead.

It's like saying that Ukraine actually will do a pogrom in Moscow if they win the war with Russia, come on. The Viet Cong will drop bombs on Montgomery, Alabama, if they win the Vietnamese civil war.

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[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Evidence of tanks at the music festival (NSFW):
https://twitter.com/Aldanmarki/status/1711863544797356401?t=ZnXDF962NLRGvhgawuVCGA&s=19
https://twitter.com/TKMarx/status/1711879624223858850?t=CJJlJ9Xm-IQ4uZ9z1iC2sg&s=19
Note that it is not clear when the tanks arrived, and we may never know that much, but they were definitely at the festival while fighting was going on.
@TheOtherwise@hexbear.net @ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net

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[–] sempersigh@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

get fucked EU commissioner person

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[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Big ass article in the newspaper today here about celebrations/protests in favor of the Palestinian uprising being met by calls for Palestinians to disavow the resistance against the genocide of their people by several national Jewish orgs, as well as human interest pieces about Jewish people in Sweden being terrified now and cancelling work etc etc.

And it's again like much of this fucking bullshit, really simple actually. If you are Palestinian in Sweden, your family came from Palestine and somehow ended up here, if you are Jewish in Sweden, you dont actually have to have a connection to Israel, regardless of how its framed here.

NOTEWORTHY ALSO: The first reported Swedish deaths in the uprising, are a pair of literal children, a 4 year old and a 1 and a half year old child, who are reported to have died in Gaza. There are no article about Palestinian fears or Palestinian sorrows in the newspapers.

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[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (16 children)

Get on lemmygrad and go to this post now

the amount of genocidal fascists is twitter level

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[–] Kaputnik@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just last week the media in Canada was talking about how the Conservative Party had a new base of support in Muslim immigrants as they both opposed inclusion of LGBT issues in education. (How much of this support was real versus manufactured by the media I can't say). This led to a lot of liberals showing their true colours, dehumanising and insulting Muslims in Canada. But now with the Palestine conflict coming front and centre in the media cycle, I wonder if the inherent split between the Conservatives' interests and their supposed base of Muslim support has become apparent faster than expected. While many conservatives never stopped being xenophobic I think pundits were hoping they could keep it on the down low until the next election. However with many Canadians publically making calls for genocide in Palestine, that ship has sailed

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[–] GayTuckerCarlson@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The mega is going to be so hype when Israel uses a tac nuke against Iran in 2025

party-cat Posting party agony-shivering

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Let's say Hezbollah does get involved relatively soon (and that draws Syria into the war). Given the US's threats, it feels like the US might get involved too, and then the whole region lights up as various groups start battling. What does:

  • Russia, who has obvious links to Syria, Egypt, Iran, and OPEC+, do?
  • China, who has increasing links to Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Iran, do?
  • Iran do?
  • Saudi Arabia do?
  • Turkey do?
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