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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

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The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

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Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (14 children)

Rybar update on ground preparations

https://streamable.com/e1ux3w

🇮🇱🇵🇸 About the “armored fist” of the IDF

New evidence of preparations for an IDF ground operation in the Gaza Strip is appearing online. Footage of a large concentration of tanks near Kibbutz Mavkiyim was published by the Al-Jarmak agency.

Coordinates: 31.584891, 34.571782

The footage shows several dozen Merkava Mk.4 tanks and other armored vehicles. It is noteworthy that the site is within the range of Hamas missiles, and if the footage was taken today, the IDF could learn a lesson about why it is not worth placing equipment and personnel so closely in close proximity to enemy positions.

[it's interesting to me that Rybar geolocated this and published the coordinates, they did that knowing people are watching that might use that information]

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[–] Teekeeus@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why does China even bother talking to american officials? Talks are always followed by sanctions (that benefit China in the long term by boosting self-sufficiency and depriving westoid companies of a large market, but still)

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sidi must be pulling his hairs out right about now

Any significant number of Palestinians allowed into Egypt will just trigger a general uprising, this is NOT the kind of war you "bring home to the Nile"

Of course if the Americans somehow brainwash him into attempting such a thing, the military will splinter and a general uprising will occur anyway

The only semi-plausible out for this wannabe Pharoah is to play possum and hope beyond hope it all goes away, lmao good luck with that Sisi boy

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[–] TheGamingLuddite@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It seems like the Israeli propaganda mask has completely sloughed off. Their official propaganda has the charisma of like Turkmenistan now, I remember them being somewhat savvier before.

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[–] TheGamingLuddite@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (5 children)

This is the end of the Zelensky era. In better times, the empire he served would have lovingly parodied on regime-owned television variety program "Saturday Night Live". Now he exits the present for history still too saintly to mock.

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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (4 children)

“As South African Jews it is incumbent upon us to understand that the dual logics, intersecting histories and the conditions of possibility for antisemitism, Zionism, antiblackness, islamophobia (…) are all connected,”

https://nitter.net/ewnreporter/status/1712168587828306238

https://twitter.com/ewnreporter/status/1712168587828306238

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[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

LOL, NBC has gotten documents that the IDF supposedly took off of Hamas fighters and are claiming that they were going to target schools during the Flood. Yeah, ok. I believe the side that has indiscriminately bombarded the open air prison that they created.

Article

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

For reference, this is the furthest Israel got in 2014. Using, as referenced above, using ~15k tank shells and 35k artillery shells, against Hamas and co. that were cut off from Iranian funding and had a much less developed tunnel network than they do now.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Apparently Hamas have their own domestically made air defence???? Propaganda video:

https://streamable.com/3nslnl

I am skeptical. What guidance system are these ground to air missiles using?

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

From an article about water in Gaza.

If fuel and water don't arrive soon, the agency's commissioner general Philippe Lazzarini said, "people will start dying of severe dehydration."

[...]

Its other water sources include desalination plants in the Mediterranean Sea and a subterranean aquifer, drained and damaged from years of overuse. When Israel severed electricity to Gaza, the desalination plants all shut down. So did the wastewater treatment stations.

That has left the entire territory without running water. People buy dwindling jugs from municipal sanitation stations, scour for bottles in supermarkets or drink whatever fetid liquid may dribble out of their pipes.

[...]

Drinking dirty water and poor sanitation due to lack of water can lead to terrible diseases, experts say, including cholera, dysentery, typhoid and polio. For the past week, the water along Gaza's coast tastes like salt, residents say.

Drinking salt water can lead to even more dehydration.

There's a lot more awfulness in the article.

The entire article

Lack of water worsens misery in besieged Gaza as Israeli airstrikes continue | AP News

DEIR AL-BALAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — As Israel pounds the Gaza Strip with airstrikes, Laila Abu Samhadaneh, 65, is anxious about water.

The besieged Gaza Strip's 2.3 million people don't have access to clean, running water after Israel cut off water and electricity to the enclave as it intensifies its air attacks in response to a bloody Hamas attack last week.

The chokehold has seen taps run dry across the territory. When water does trickle from pipes, the meager flow lasts no more than 30 minutes each day and is so contaminated with sewage and seawater that it's undrinkable, residents said.

"I don't know what we're going to do tomorrow," Abu Samhadaneh said from her three-room home in the southern town of Rafah, which turned into a de facto shelter after Israel demanded everyone in Gaza evacuate south. She said she rations just a few liters among dozens of friends and relatives each day. "We're going crazy."

The deprivation has plunged Gaza's population deeper into misery as Israel's bombardment intensifies one week after Hamas fighters surged across Israel's separation fence, killing 1,300 Israelis and abducting dozens. Israel's retaliatory strikes have crushed hundreds of buildings in Gaza and killed more than 2,200 Palestinians.

Even as terrified families flee their homes — squeezing into United Nations shelters or the bloody and chaotic halls of Gaza's biggest hospital in fear for their safety — the desperate search for water remains a constant.

U.N. agencies and aid groups are beseeching Israel to permit emergency deliveries of fuel and other supplies into the Gaza Strip.

"There really can't be a justification for this kind of targeting of civilians," said Miriam Marmur, a spokesperson for Gisha, an Israeli human rights group.

The U.N. Palestinian refugee agency called the water crisis a "matter of life or death."

If fuel and water don't arrive soon, the agency's commissioner general Philippe Lazzarini said, "people will start dying of severe dehydration."

In normal times, the coastal enclave — which has struggled under an Israeli-Egyptian blockade since Hamas seized control of Gaza in 2007 — relies on Israel for one-third of all available drinking water, the territory's water authority says.

Its other water sources include desalination plants in the Mediterranean Sea and a subterranean aquifer, drained and damaged from years of overuse. When Israel severed electricity to Gaza, the desalination plants all shut down. So did the wastewater treatment stations.

That has left the entire territory without running water. People buy dwindling jugs from municipal sanitation stations, scour for bottles in supermarkets or drink whatever fetid liquid may dribble out of their pipes.

Quenching thirst has become more difficult in the past day, even for those with means to shell out for bottled water. It took 35-year-old Noor Swirki two hours on Saturday to find a box of six bottles she will try to stretch throughout the coming days. She took her first shower in a week Saturday, using a cup of polluted tap water and splashing it over her husband and two children before rubbing the remaining moisture on her skin.

"We are here without anything, even the most basic thing," she said, shouting over the persistent noise of crying children in the U.N. shelter in southern Khan Younis, where she sought refuge after an airstrike demolished her Gaza City apartment. "We're worried about our safety in the bombing and now there's this other issue of survival."

She and six other Palestinians interviewed across Gaza said they drink no more than half a liter of water a day. They said they urinate once a day or every other day.

The World Health Organization says that 50 to 100 liters per day per person are needed to ensure proper hydration and sanitation. The U.S. National Academies of Science and Medicine say men need to drink about 3.7 liters (125 ounces) and women need about 2.7 liters (91 ounces) per day to be adequately hydrated.

"It's like we're in the stone ages," said 28-year-old Khalil Abu Yahia in the central town of Deir al-Balah.

Drinking dirty water and poor sanitation due to lack of water can lead to terrible diseases, experts say, including cholera, dysentery, typhoid and polio. For the past week, the water along Gaza's coast tastes like salt, residents say.

Drinking salt water can lead to even more dehydration.

"It tastes bad, it smells bad," said 25-year-old Mohammed Bashir about the tap water in western Gaza City, which is mixed with untreated wastewater and seawater. "But we have no choice. My kids are crying because they're thirsty."

Among the dozens of Palestinians with shrapnel wounds in their legs and arms from airstrikes that Dr. Husom Safiyah treated Saturday in northern Gaza, there were 15 children, including infants, with bacterial dysentery caused by the water shortage, he said.

"The situation is disastrous, and it will become even more so after two or three days," said Safiyah, a physician with MedGlobal, an organization that sends medical teams to disaster regions. He spoke as explosions thundered outside and medics around him rushed to handle the latest influx of victims.

He said he had to go and help them. An airstrike near the Jabaliya refugee camp had just killed at least 27 people, mostly women and children, according to Hamas authorities, and dozens were wounded. When asked how he would clean their wounds, he said that he would use what little tap water they had, even if it was mixed with sewage.

"We have no alternative," he said.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

After 6 days of Military secrecy, the Israel Defense Forces today admits the killing of IDF General Leon Bar, 54 years old, a senior officer in the West Bank Division in the Israeli army, during clashes in the Kibbutzs and other settlements surrounding the Gaza Strip.

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[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (11 children)

https://twitter.com/HardcoreHistory/status/1712180772151710190

Dan "Heil History" Carlin spreads his belief that The Great Replacement is real but only for Israelis threatened by Palestinians.

https://twitter.com/HardcoreHistory/status/1712220986517651530

Or not! Apparently "this question"(what question? "The Palestinian Question", Dan?) is outdated based on more recent census, pity he wont delete his endorsement of genocidal conspiracy theories!

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[–] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Honestly the biggest mistake of Zionism is not understanding the holy land is Long Island.

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[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

For folks out there who are concerned about using massive surveillance platforms and military contractors like Google to perform machine translation of sensitive and potentially "illegal" statements, consider LibreTranslate. It is a free software machine translation system you can run on your own machine. It does not require an Nvidia GPU like many other AI systems, nor does it send your requests to the internet for remote processing.

You can try it here, but if you want the benefit of privacy, you must install it on your own computer.

edit: fixed link

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago

Hezbollah says it sucessfully targeted and disabled Zionist cameras and technical equipment in the settlement of Metula

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

Israel is done for i think, they are too weak to fullfill the desires of their Hate on Gaza. But to fucking mental and done for to not try , or ragingly demand it from the IDF . Pretty sure the Moral really is rock bottom in the IDF , because most of them also understood that "they are the baddies" and also that they most probably gonna die when they enter Gaza. Taking Gaza might something that the "great Regional Power Israel" considered and planned , but its something that "small regional power Israel" can not afford to do or risk.

Edit: arnt the most fanatic jews / settlers spared from conscription or something ?

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[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

I'm not serving if I get drafted.

EDIT: amending my comment to avoid using the word I was actually called by someone in college in a derogatory manner.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago

"It will be a bloodbath on a Biblical scale, jack. And I'm fine with that. I'm Joe Biden and I approve this carnage."

Hours after Israel ordered an exodus in Gaza, State Department officials circulated internal warnings against 3 phrases:

  • "de-escalation/ceasefire"
  • "end to violence/bloodshed"
  • "restoring calm"

It's the latest sign the US won't urge Israeli restraint

Nitter

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

For our more nerd inclined, poland has election tomorrow. They are choosing between anti-abortion "pope john the second death was the worst day in history of poland" pisfreaks, libertarian "south silesia will rise again" confederates , brussels "tusk the plan" footsoldiers, third way "clinton is still president right" party and lefties "do we split before or after the election".

All party characteristics are the work of fiction and shouldn't be taken seriously

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[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"There are decades where weeks happen and weeks where decades happen but boy fucking howdy this is like 3 centuries in the last 4 fuckin days"

-Vladmir Lenin

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[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (4 children)

https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1713157927882674283

That old fascist fuck is back with some more fascism. When your war heros are advocating for genocide, you are clearly the baddies.

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[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (16 children)

im sorry but the regular mega is about to expire and i need this opinion out there.

like its fuckin UNUSUAL that Star Wars has versions that override the original versions, right? name one other series that has engaged in such aggressive revisionism on early entries. i cannot think of a single film from the 1970s which you are legally obliged to view with CGI from decades since it was released. fucking ridiculous.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Israeli airstrike leaves Palestinian refugee camp in ruins | AP News

Israeli warplanes pounded the Shati refugee camp in Gaza City early Thursday, reducing entire swaths of the crowded camp to ruins.

There's video at the link. It's eerie because there's no sound.

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[–] AcidMarxist@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (3 children)

When will there be links to give resources to Palestine? I know theyre out there, but I wanna see it posted on the church doors

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[–] wheresmysurplusvalue@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Today my Finnish coworker messaged me out of the blue to ask if I heard about the Balticconnector pipeline and data cable being damaged. They "already know" it's Russia and that Russia also did the Nordstream explosions. It got pretty uncomfortable when I gave a vague answer "geopolitics is crazy, it's been a year and everyone is still just pointing fingers at each other about Nordstream." and I could feel they were very close to calling me a Russia bot.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Propaganda and SEO manipulation - name a tastier combo. You can't!

The US and Israel say they have no concrete evidence Iran was behind Hamas' unprecedented attack on Israel but ⁦this must-read...

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago

Israel has only given two hours to evacuate Al Awda Hospital in Gaza, Doctors Without Borders says

“Our staff are still treating patients.

"We unequivocally condemn this action, the continued indiscriminate bloodshed and attacks on health care in Gaza.“

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago

🚨 Al-Manar Correspondent:

Hezbollah flag raised at the IOF military site on the border with Lebanon.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

11/10 I've been off for half the day. Gonna use this comment for a surge of updates. Will edit as I go.

Egypt and Iran agree to work together to provide medical and humanitarian aid to the people of Gaza

Palestinian drone strikes today: [sirens, not strikes, cause of sirens unknown]

Missiles from Lebanon today:

It seems that Hezbollah launched a massive wave of UAVs at Northern Israel

Israeli Channel 12: Manned paragliders were observed entering from Lebanon!

Asking all residents to shut down and hide into shelters and not leave

Armed fighters blow up the Lebanese border fence and enter Israel from the north

Israeli red alert system, Red Alerts across the entirety of Northern Israel.

The American embassy in Lebanon is being evacuated.

American citizens are advised to leave Lebanon as soon as possible.

Alleged weapons cache captured by IDF:

An F-7 HE-Frag rocket (made by #NorthKorea/#DPRK 🇰🇵), TBG-7V thermobaric rocket (made by #Iran 🇮🇷), PG-7M rockets, PG-7V rocket Chinese Type 69 RPG Launchers, Type 56-1 rifle and HAMAS-made M26A2 pattern grenades can be seen.

https://twitter.com/war_noir/status/1712132427408183713

Flares fired border with Lebanon (notice how these are nothing like the white phosphorous munitions, keep the difference in mind) - https://streamable.com/4oy62x


Ok so pretty much all of the above has now turned into "there are no strikes from Lebanon, we made it up, we made a mistake" from Israel????????????? wut


https://streamable.com/h4j70f

John Kirby confirms the USS Dwight D Eisenhower carrier strike group will be headed to the Mediterranean but says it will not join the USS Gerald R. Ford strike group as a second strike group, but will be available in the area if needed.

(called it, this is going to go to iran imo)

John Kirby: We're refurbishing some Iron Dome interceptors from our inventory in Israel‌‌

John Kirby: Civilians in Gaza are not responsible for what Hamas did‌‌"


Turkish army is attacking Rojava


[needs verification] Pakistan says it will provide missile support to Hamas if Israel invades Gaza


Fuck, removed some things because I was scrolled back in one of my feeds and not posting up to date stuff.


American Delta Force and SEAL Team Six said to assist the IDF in finding and extracting American hostages in upcoming Gaza incursion. - Levant Kemal

Channel 12 says Israel considering either seizing Gaza or not doing it but invading anyway just to look strong and then withdraw.

Hezbollah Statement:— We were not surprised at all by the political positions and field actions (https://t.me/PalestineResist/14375) taken by the American administration, especially the recent statements of the US President in openly supporting the zionist killing machine and aggression against the Palestinian people. This is the true essence of the complete American policy in its continuous support for aggression and terrorism since the establishment of this usurping occupying entity.

We consider the United States to be a full partner in zionist aggression, and we hold it fully responsible for the killings, crimes, siege, destruction of homes and houses, and horrifying massacres against innocent civilians, including children, women, and the elderly.

We call on the masses of our Arab and Islamic nation, which knows the ugly truth of America and its aggression against the peoples of our nation in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan, to condemn the American intervention along with its international and regional partners and to expose this intervention at all political, popular, media and legal levels and in various regional and international forums and gatherings.

Sending aircraft carriers to the region with the aim of raising the morale of the enemy and its frustrated soldiers reveals the weakness of the zionist military machine despite the crimes and massacres it commits, and thus its need for continuous external support to provide this temporary usurping entity with the means of life. Therefore, we affirm that this step will not frighten the peoples of our nation or the factions.

The resistance is ready for confrontation until final victory and complete liberation is achieved.

https://streamable.com/sbl1sf

Palestinian ambassador for the United Nations addressed the international community and asked them to take responsibility and step into the picture to put and end to the slaughter of the Palestian people and send urgent humanitarian aid to avid a looming catastrophe, the Palestian National Authority is working for a cease fire and the reopening of the Egyptian border to allow humanitarian aid in the Gaza strip.


Ok I think that catches up on half the day, or at least close to it. Gonna go back to normal posting.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hezbollah has released a statement

In the name of God,

In response to the Israeli attacks this afternoon on the vicinity of a number of southern Lebanese towns, the Mujahideen of the Islamic Resistance attacked the following Israeli outposts: the Al-Abad site, the Miskvam site, the Ramia site, and the Jal Al-Alam site, with direct fire and appropriate weapons, and they achieved accurate hits.

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