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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

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The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

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Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] fever@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago

Kneel before the man who helped Hezbullah win the 33 day war against Israel, led the Axis of Resistance to abolish ISIL/ISIS and secured pathes to transfer weaponry to Palestinian resistance. Behold:

General Ghassem Soleimani

[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

fascists in NY interviewed by the grayzone

spoilerThe Gray Zone, an investigative news website, asked demonstrators rallying in support of Israel in New York City on Monday how Israeli forces should respond to Hamas’s attacks. Here’s what journalist Jeremy Loffredo heard:

“Kill all Palestinians, all of them,” one man said. “Not one left. From the river to the sea. Palestine will be deceased.”

Another Zionist activist said, “We gotta wipe them off the f***ing map… Flatten them like a parking lot. Flatten them out once and for all and get rid of them”, while a third said now is the time “to erase Gaza”.

He added, “There is people inside… our people inside that are kidnapped. And now we need to kill all of them and free Israel.”

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Out of morbid curiosity, I checked NAFO Twitter, and it's a combination of people shilling for the Zionist entity, people trying to find any tenuous link between Hamas and Russia, and people malding that nobody is paying attention to Ukraine anymore.

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[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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[–] Noven@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is what the liberals consider to be "humane surgical strikes" on Gaza.

https://streamable.com/6a2ith

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[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (11 children)

https://twitter.com/HardcoreHistory/status/1712180772151710190

Dan "Heil History" Carlin spreads his belief that The Great Replacement is real but only for Israelis threatened by Palestinians.

https://twitter.com/HardcoreHistory/status/1712220986517651530

Or not! Apparently "this question"(what question? "The Palestinian Question", Dan?) is outdated based on more recent census, pity he wont delete his endorsement of genocidal conspiracy theories!

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

From an article about water in Gaza.

If fuel and water don't arrive soon, the agency's commissioner general Philippe Lazzarini said, "people will start dying of severe dehydration."

[...]

Its other water sources include desalination plants in the Mediterranean Sea and a subterranean aquifer, drained and damaged from years of overuse. When Israel severed electricity to Gaza, the desalination plants all shut down. So did the wastewater treatment stations.

That has left the entire territory without running water. People buy dwindling jugs from municipal sanitation stations, scour for bottles in supermarkets or drink whatever fetid liquid may dribble out of their pipes.

[...]

Drinking dirty water and poor sanitation due to lack of water can lead to terrible diseases, experts say, including cholera, dysentery, typhoid and polio. For the past week, the water along Gaza's coast tastes like salt, residents say.

Drinking salt water can lead to even more dehydration.

There's a lot more awfulness in the article.

The entire article

Lack of water worsens misery in besieged Gaza as Israeli airstrikes continue | AP News

DEIR AL-BALAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — As Israel pounds the Gaza Strip with airstrikes, Laila Abu Samhadaneh, 65, is anxious about water.

The besieged Gaza Strip's 2.3 million people don't have access to clean, running water after Israel cut off water and electricity to the enclave as it intensifies its air attacks in response to a bloody Hamas attack last week.

The chokehold has seen taps run dry across the territory. When water does trickle from pipes, the meager flow lasts no more than 30 minutes each day and is so contaminated with sewage and seawater that it's undrinkable, residents said.

"I don't know what we're going to do tomorrow," Abu Samhadaneh said from her three-room home in the southern town of Rafah, which turned into a de facto shelter after Israel demanded everyone in Gaza evacuate south. She said she rations just a few liters among dozens of friends and relatives each day. "We're going crazy."

The deprivation has plunged Gaza's population deeper into misery as Israel's bombardment intensifies one week after Hamas fighters surged across Israel's separation fence, killing 1,300 Israelis and abducting dozens. Israel's retaliatory strikes have crushed hundreds of buildings in Gaza and killed more than 2,200 Palestinians.

Even as terrified families flee their homes — squeezing into United Nations shelters or the bloody and chaotic halls of Gaza's biggest hospital in fear for their safety — the desperate search for water remains a constant.

U.N. agencies and aid groups are beseeching Israel to permit emergency deliveries of fuel and other supplies into the Gaza Strip.

"There really can't be a justification for this kind of targeting of civilians," said Miriam Marmur, a spokesperson for Gisha, an Israeli human rights group.

The U.N. Palestinian refugee agency called the water crisis a "matter of life or death."

If fuel and water don't arrive soon, the agency's commissioner general Philippe Lazzarini said, "people will start dying of severe dehydration."

In normal times, the coastal enclave — which has struggled under an Israeli-Egyptian blockade since Hamas seized control of Gaza in 2007 — relies on Israel for one-third of all available drinking water, the territory's water authority says.

Its other water sources include desalination plants in the Mediterranean Sea and a subterranean aquifer, drained and damaged from years of overuse. When Israel severed electricity to Gaza, the desalination plants all shut down. So did the wastewater treatment stations.

That has left the entire territory without running water. People buy dwindling jugs from municipal sanitation stations, scour for bottles in supermarkets or drink whatever fetid liquid may dribble out of their pipes.

Quenching thirst has become more difficult in the past day, even for those with means to shell out for bottled water. It took 35-year-old Noor Swirki two hours on Saturday to find a box of six bottles she will try to stretch throughout the coming days. She took her first shower in a week Saturday, using a cup of polluted tap water and splashing it over her husband and two children before rubbing the remaining moisture on her skin.

"We are here without anything, even the most basic thing," she said, shouting over the persistent noise of crying children in the U.N. shelter in southern Khan Younis, where she sought refuge after an airstrike demolished her Gaza City apartment. "We're worried about our safety in the bombing and now there's this other issue of survival."

She and six other Palestinians interviewed across Gaza said they drink no more than half a liter of water a day. They said they urinate once a day or every other day.

The World Health Organization says that 50 to 100 liters per day per person are needed to ensure proper hydration and sanitation. The U.S. National Academies of Science and Medicine say men need to drink about 3.7 liters (125 ounces) and women need about 2.7 liters (91 ounces) per day to be adequately hydrated.

"It's like we're in the stone ages," said 28-year-old Khalil Abu Yahia in the central town of Deir al-Balah.

Drinking dirty water and poor sanitation due to lack of water can lead to terrible diseases, experts say, including cholera, dysentery, typhoid and polio. For the past week, the water along Gaza's coast tastes like salt, residents say.

Drinking salt water can lead to even more dehydration.

"It tastes bad, it smells bad," said 25-year-old Mohammed Bashir about the tap water in western Gaza City, which is mixed with untreated wastewater and seawater. "But we have no choice. My kids are crying because they're thirsty."

Among the dozens of Palestinians with shrapnel wounds in their legs and arms from airstrikes that Dr. Husom Safiyah treated Saturday in northern Gaza, there were 15 children, including infants, with bacterial dysentery caused by the water shortage, he said.

"The situation is disastrous, and it will become even more so after two or three days," said Safiyah, a physician with MedGlobal, an organization that sends medical teams to disaster regions. He spoke as explosions thundered outside and medics around him rushed to handle the latest influx of victims.

He said he had to go and help them. An airstrike near the Jabaliya refugee camp had just killed at least 27 people, mostly women and children, according to Hamas authorities, and dozens were wounded. When asked how he would clean their wounds, he said that he would use what little tap water they had, even if it was mixed with sewage.

"We have no alternative," he said.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Our reality is in the realm of The Onion...

When a reporter on Friday asked President Joe Biden what worries him about a potential Israeli ground invasion into Gaza, Biden responded, "Death."

Israel-Gaza live updates: Biden worried about 'death' in potential ground invasion - ABC News

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

AUDIO ONLY EXTREMELY GRAPHIC THOUGH: A team of Al-Jazeera and Reuters journalists were hit by an Israeli artillery strike in South Lebanon

The bad part, content warning death

spoiler

"What happened?! What happened?! What happened?! I can't feel my legs! Fck, fck!"

The woman heard screaming died minutes after. These were her last moments alive.

https://streamable.com/g2ekmg

Might be slightly untrue and the woman here might be the woman in my previous post, who survived. Uncertainty about this. A cameraman did die though.

[–] s0ngs0ng@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I felling more and more like that guy in airplane movie that is always saying that he picked the wrong week to quit using something

Also frankly I'm so glad that I don't have to care about the opinion of eastern europe ultra nationalists anymore.

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

Palestinian fighters infiltrated Ashdod. That's fucking halfway to Tel Aviv.

edit: perhaps not? either way there's definitely shooting happening

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[–] trompete@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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[–] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's 2am in Palestine, Friday is here. News off stuff popping off could be coming in the next couple of hours.

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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago

Jordan's King Abdullah II issues directives to dispatch urgent humanitarian and medical aid to the Palestinians in Gaza, through Rafah crossing

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Evidence of WP use spreading on Telegram. Link is to the aftermath https://t.me/mangopress/16045

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Watching a live feed from Gaza. Bombs falling right now. : |

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

NEW pictures showing Egyptian 🇪🇬 Military Assets being transferred to Rafah,

The convoy was spotted in Al-Arish, which is 75km away from Gaza.

I suspect these are most likely to be keeping the Palestinians inside Gaza rather than helping. They will be deployed to the Rafah crossing which is the only way in and out of Gaza to Egypt.

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[–] CarmineCatboy@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (4 children)

will we ever post harder than this?

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (14 children)

Rybar update on ground preparations

https://streamable.com/e1ux3w

🇮🇱🇵🇸 About the “armored fist” of the IDF

New evidence of preparations for an IDF ground operation in the Gaza Strip is appearing online. Footage of a large concentration of tanks near Kibbutz Mavkiyim was published by the Al-Jarmak agency.

Coordinates: 31.584891, 34.571782

The footage shows several dozen Merkava Mk.4 tanks and other armored vehicles. It is noteworthy that the site is within the range of Hamas missiles, and if the footage was taken today, the IDF could learn a lesson about why it is not worth placing equipment and personnel so closely in close proximity to enemy positions.

[it's interesting to me that Rybar geolocated this and published the coordinates, they did that knowing people are watching that might use that information]

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[–] gregheffley@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Will we ever get a paraglider emoji?

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Straw Hat Pirates flag spotted at a Palestinian Protest. Luffy would declare war on Israel because he doesn't like when people go hungry.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Spokesman of the Israeli army Admiral Daniel Hagari: The Israeli Defense Forces will operate everywhere in the Middle East in order to achieve their security goals, we are fully prepared on all fronts.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago

Palestinians fear repeat of 1948 as Israel calls for evacuation | AP News

“You look at those pictures of people without cars, on donkeys, hungry and barefoot, getting out any way they can to go to the south,” said political analyst Talal Awkal, who has decided to stay in Gaza City because he doesn’t think the south will be any safer.

“It is a catastrophe for Palestinians, it is a Nakba,” he said. “They are displacing an entire population from its homeland.”

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Interesting training video of the engineering units whose job in the action is the overcoming of various obstacles, fences, walls, etc. https://streamable.com/mh11sw

Shows a certain level of professional training and structure in the squad roles among the resistance.

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[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Yesterday, I was reading the wiki page on the war in Israel right now, and the "war crimes" section included instances committed by both Hamas and Israel. It was several paragraphs. Today, the section has been shortened down to less than a paragraph that not only singles out Hamas, but it removes details of any specific crimes. I can understand singling them out from a propaganda perspective, but I don't understand why they completely removed the details of what Hamas did other than just letting westoids scare themselves at night with their wicked, projected imagination. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war#War_crimes_2

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[–] TheGamingLuddite@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (5 children)

This is the end of the Zelensky era. In better times, the empire he served would have lovingly parodied on regime-owned television variety program "Saturday Night Live". Now he exits the present for history still too saintly to mock.

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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (4 children)

“As South African Jews it is incumbent upon us to understand that the dual logics, intersecting histories and the conditions of possibility for antisemitism, Zionism, antiblackness, islamophobia (…) are all connected,”

https://nitter.net/ewnreporter/status/1712168587828306238

https://twitter.com/ewnreporter/status/1712168587828306238

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I started googling people who appear on CNN and MSNBC who get interviewed by anchors. Here's an example of a guy who was described as something like "an advisor to 6 Israeli PMs"...

"The reality is that barbarians have attacked the margins & in some case, the core of the civilized world. We need to shake ourselves of the notion that these are completely distinct & limited phenomena. All of us, not just Israelis & Ukrainians, are in the fight of our lives."

Nitter

[Edit - instance changed.]

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