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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

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Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (8 children)
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[–] Vode_An@lemmy.ml 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hamas reported a successful strike by an Ayash-250 ballistic missile on the IDF Northern Military District headquarters in Safed.

The Israelis confirmed the launch and reported intercepting the target, but footage later emerged of the arrival hitting the Sterokem fertilizer plant in Haifa. Whether it was an exact hit from another similar munition or the fallen remains of a downed rocket is not yet known.

Coordinates: 32.7797498, 35.0721901.

The nuance is that both Safed and Haifa are over 150 kilometers away from the Gaza Strip, confirming the Palestinian group's ability to hit targets virtually throughout Israel.

This is the second documented use of the Ayash 250 by Hamas: before that they launched it at Ramon Airbase in the Negev Desert during last year's escalation in 2021.

source: Rybar on twitter

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (7 children)

A Chinese Envoy & delegation is heading to the Middle East to broker a Ceasefire between Israel & Gaza.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago

A MSNBC talking head just described Gazans fleeing Gaza City as "refugees". I wonder if that's the go-to term that's going to be used.

[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Al-Qassam is apparently targetting the headquarters of the Northern Region Command in Safad with a "Ayyash 250" missile. edit: not sure if it hit its target, but it hit something. interception failed.

sidenote: it's interesting that Hamas isn't hitting Israeli infrastructure as much as they could be. there's been a power plant or two hit early on but no general campaign to hit infrastructure, as opposed to settlements in the Gaza envelope or on the coast near the strip. Russia's tactic in Ukraine of "force the enemy to waste air defense missiles protecting electrical infrastructure" seems like it would be a good lesson to emulate here. I mean, what's Israel gonna do? Cut off electricity? Cut off water? Drop thousands of bombs on the cities? They're already doing that!

[–] gregheffley@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (3 children)

White supremacists/Zionists think the IDF are walking into a leisurely genocide I personally think they’re walking into a Grozny

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Most of the American media makes a heroic effort to avoid providing appropriate context or even any context at all. Imagine if they actually explained stuff.

"Israel is dropping in less than a week what the U.S. was dropping in Afghanistan in a year, in a much smaller, much more densely populated area, where mistakes are going to be magnified," said Marc Garlasco…a former UN war crimes investigator.

Nitter

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[–] Cummunism@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (2 children)

liberals trying to understand historical and material conditions challenge: level impossible

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[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)

breaking news: Hamas have destroyed an IDF convoy by painting a wall to look like a road, causing everything to run into it. When will this terror end?

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fighting is ongoing in Ashkelon again after a new successful amphibious landing by a Palestinian resistance force on Gute Beach.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

How surreal.

Hamas said that at 5pm they'd attack Ashkelon. So - CNN and MSNBC went there and then was CNN vs MSNBC in Ashkelon. CNN lost - their correspondent was in a bunker. MSNBC won - their correspondent was on the street and you could hear the sirens wailing and when the camera pointed at the sky - you could see the Iron Dome in action.

I bet CNN's correspondent will take greater risks and MSNBC's will respond in kind. Nobody likes to lose. I wonder if greater recklessness will cause an American network news war streamer (or their crew) will get hurt or killed in their efforts to win.

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The CNN correspondent is now on a balcony. I'm actually surprised she's not on the street to get more dynamic video.

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I googled so I'd have names. They are Clarissa Ward (CNN) and Richard Engel (MSNBC).

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[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I was wondering how long it would take until the Canadians turned their sights to Radhika:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/radhika-desai-valdai-russia-ukraine-1.6995250

Desai then made international headlines when she asked Putin for his opinion on the scandal involving the Ukrainian veteran of a notorious Nazi unit, who was honoured in the House of Commons during a Sept. 22 visit by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

The exchange played into Putin's oft-repeated but unsupported claim that Russia is trying to "de-Nazify" Ukraine.

"Her actions are morally reprehensible," said Andres Kasekamp, chair of Estonian studies at the University of Toronto and the Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy.

"She gave [Putin] the big gift," of being able to say Canada has further justified the invasion, he said. "Which is pretty horrendous."

lol lmao, remind me again, who gave two standing ovations to a Nazi?

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[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

https://www.politicsweb.co.za/documents/sa-govt-must-act-to-end-apartheid-israels-ethnic-c

The equivalent of Nelson Mandela Bay is, as of now flattened. Isnotreal more-or-less also has South Africa in it's sights, leaving the trapped citizens to the bombs and not allowing them to leave, let alone contact any authorities, especially Palestinians who hold South African citizenship.

Also at the time of posting, this article was published literally less than half an hour ago.

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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago

Security incident in Dimona, where Israel's main nuclear center is located.

The incident occurred at the nuclear center in the Israeli Dimona, there are no details of the incident yet - Jerusalem Post

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Reports coming in now that Hamas is burning Belgian babies.

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[–] BigBoyKarlLiebknecht@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Israel’s intel failure is 'bad for business'

The sheer scale and intensity of the Palestinian resistance's Operation Al-Aqsa Flood took Israel and the world by surprise last week. Even seasoned western intelligence agency veterans, who possess intimate knowledge of Israel's surveillance capabilities, struggled to provide any plausible explanation for the glaring security gaps. Academics with decades of research on the conflict, also admitted they are none the wiser: “Honestly I have no f'ing clue what's going on. What this means. Or where this heads. Literally anything is possible,” tweeted an Associate Fellow at “the world's oldest and the UK's leading defense and security think tank,” the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI).

US officials were notably evasive when asked if this amounted to an epic "intelligence failure." Mainstream news outlets openly pondered how Tel Aviv could have missed the Palestinians' elaborate plans while conspiracy theories quickly spread online to suggest that Israel may have intentionally allowed the incursion to occur - as if the Occupation state ever required an excuse to pulverize Gaza.

A Financial Times report on the fiasco alleged that Israel “has built the most formidable intelligence service in the region and established a network of informants throughout the Palestinian territories, as well as in hostile neighbors” such as Iran, Lebanon, and Syria. Yet, despite this apparently formidable fifth column and Tel Aviv's construction of “a high-security barrier around Hamas’ stronghold in hemmed-in Gaza - buttressed by motion sensors and extending deep under the ground” - hundreds of Palestinian fighters were able to breach those defenses without difficulty.

This they did from multiple fronts, using boats, tunnels, motorbikes, and paragliders, infiltrating ten occupation army bases, and killing hundreds of sleeping Israeli troops. Al-Aqsa Flood involved arranging multiple rocket launch systems, ground forces, vehicles, and other equipment in sensitive positions in advance of its execution, leaving resistance fighters and their equipment exposed to surveillance from assorted angles, yet they were neither detected nor intercepted.

Tel Aviv has invested billions of dollars in constructing its reputation, and has routinely boasted in the years prior that it was among the most heavily fortified and defended countries in the world. In the event, the technology was rendered totally useless, their extensive constituent cameras, sensors, and other systems not identifying the attack or perpetrators. Meanwhile, drones blitzed automatic machine guns and electronic guard towers, as the Palestinian resistance blew up fences and entered into Israel.

But beyond the military and settler losses endured by the Occupation state, the broader psychological impact of this Palestinian guerilla operation is profound. And it comes on the back of two years of relentless, and often successful, foreign hacking operations that have penetrated Israel's toughest firewalls across critical institutions - including the country's Ministry of Defense.

Last year, the Times of Israel reported that in 2021, the country’s overall cybersecurity exports were estimated at $11 billion. In addition, 33 percent of cyber unicorn companies operate from Israel, and a whopping 40 percent of global private cyber investments have been funneled into the country, according to the Israeli government. From Tel Aviv's perspective, the exposure of their electronic surveillance and warfare systems as ineffective and vulnerable to guerrilla attacks is a serious blow to Israel's "Startup Nation" brand, which relies heavily on its multi-billion-dollar tech sector - with cybersecurity at its core.

Mere days before Operation al-Aqsa Flood commenced, Israeli media reported on a “record-breaking spike” in countries buying Israeli cyber warfare and intelligence systems from 67 to 83 over 2022, and marketing licenses for these wares granted to 126 countries. This followed a “dramatic decline” in 2021, precipitated by the exposure of widespread use of Pegasus by repressive governments, and NSO and Candiru being blacklisted by Washington. It seems likely the events of recent days will also lead to a significant decline in the fortunes of Israel’s cybersecurity sector. Gaza is, by design, an open-air concentration camp, and in theory, nothing and no one gets in or out without Tel Aviv’s authorization and knowledge. However, this time, the supposed internal surveillance system failed catastrophically.

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[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (9 children)
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[–] edge@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Dumb thing I made. Someone asked for a Ukraine/Israel flag, so I made this Palestine/Novorossiya flag. Novorossiya to represent both Donbass states together basically, plus it enabled the interesting idea of making each triangle a different color from the Palestinian flag.

Edit: lmao they replied "where's the yellow?". Do they not even recognize the colors of the Palestinian flag?

Edit: "It looks more like an israel+palestine flag, which, while based, is not what I asked for."

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[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I cannot recommend Rashid Khaldidi’s The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine highly enough if you want to understand the history of all this (book was recommended by Hakim). I’m on the first section still and it’s all incredibly informative. I’m on the section that covers 1917-1939. There is a PragerU video that gives a Zionist slant to the history. In that video, they immediately jump from the Brits winning WW1 to the Palestinian revolts in the late 30s - implying the Palestinians had no real reason to protest. Because of course they do, because what happened in that period was awful. This chapter explains how truly evil the British rule over Mandatory Palestine really was. Promises were broken and at no point were the rights or even concerns of the Palestinians were addressed until they started to revolt AND WW2 loomed on the horizon (and even then, their concerns weren’t really addresss ofc).

And John McCain once called the author a terrorist, so that’s cool.

[–] Torenico@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Israel be like: We will stop all humanitarian aid to Gaza until our hostages are released

Liberals: BUT HAMAS DOESNT CARE FOR THE AVERAGE PALESTINIAN!

Why do they make this weird connection? Lmfao, does Israel even think of the average palestinian as something more than mere targets you fucking asshole? Becuase if they did they wouldn't be destroying random buildings inside the city. In fact, all power is on Israel side. They have the power to cut off aid, they have the power to cut off supplies, they have the power to bomb Gaza bit by bit until nothing exists. What they fuck are they talking about Hamas here lmfao, do they not understand the balance of power? Do they not understand that with or without Hamas, Gaza has been always at the mercy of Israel?

Plus, they don't seem to understand what Hamas is, they think of it as this super secret comically evil terrorist organization when, in reality, they're a political party with a militant wing lol, like, they form government in Gaza, they are Gaza's institutional life, they have reciprocity with the common Gazans, I'll give you institutions and you give me legitimacy, common political life shit, in essence it's no different than the fucking Democratic party. They don't understand this, they don't understand that Hamas is what keeps Gaza literally alive at this stage, all things considered. They are even held accountable by the Gazans, this is why they must keep shit running and rockets flying against Israel, they have to keep validating their rule and to represent their people because their base of legitimacy IS the people of Gaza. Is it cool? No, I wish it was someone else actually, but if you want someone to blame do so on Israel, not the starved Gazan who never even had the fair chance to decide the fate of his people. When you've been under siege for your entire life, when all you see around you is death and destruction at the hands of the IDF, you want the guys who can pick up a gun and fight back against them.

They see Israel is about to commit genocide on Palestinians yet they continue to insist on fucking Hamas, give me a fucking break, they just see whatever they want to see. Fucking hell I hate liberals with all my being, at the very least conservatives while being the pieces of shit they are, they are straight about what they fucking want, no funny decorations like "love for all" or "respect", they fucking want you dead and they let you know it. Liberals are cynical, disingenuous, they are the most vile shit I get to see right up with fucking nazis. They want us dead but first they'll lie to us with cute words.

But like I've said before: The underlying issue for liberals and Palestine is that they can't stand global south people standing up to one of their own, they can't conceive the idea of near starved people fighting for their freedom and achieving victory against one of their own. They're scared to their core by just thinking of that. Palestine will win, and they will set the stage for the ultimate destruction of the wicked world order the liberals and their reactionary friends have built. FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

https://streamable.com/m3fco4

Crimean Bridge is fully operational again. Main works completely significantly ahead of schedule.

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How dare you all doubt that Joe Biden didn't see photos of the beheaded babies! Corn Pop risked his life getting those photos into the South African prison Joe was being held in!

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[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Sure, keep blurring the line between civilian and troop, keep giving more ARs to bloodthirsty volunteer death squads, surely these randos won’t get eaten up by resistance fighters or die to friendly fire https://www.timesofisrael.com/ben-gvir-says-10000-assault-rifles-purchased-for-civilian-security-teams

[–] smokeppb@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Egypt stands ready to kill any refugees in the upcoming ghetto clearings:

https://apnews.com/live/israel-hamas-war-live-updates#0000018b-2800-d98a-a18b-ea3ac20e0000

Israel seems to be taking less of a "Leningrad Approach" like Hersh's article said might happen, but more of a "Stalingrad Approach". At least I'm hoping it's Stalingrad, and not Warsaw.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (10 children)

A few minutes ago John Kirby was on CNN. He's a NSC guy in the White House. Jake Tapper mentioned Israeli women getting r*ped. When the stream cut back to Kirby - he was choked up and almost crying. It took him a number of long seconds to manage to get words out.

I expected that and I saw it today from people like dem congresspeople when they discussed the music festival. But I seriously didn't think even nat sec guys would do that too. They are cool as fucking cucumbers when talking about thousands of dead Palestinians. Or when discussing 1,000s or 10,000s of foreigners of all kinds killed in war.

"We regret the tragic loss of life and the way you know that is I'm reading this pro forma statement that I've said a dozen times without any emotion at all and this is no exception, Jake."

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hezbollah announces that it targeted five IDF sites across the border

In the name of God, the most gracious, the most merciful,

The Mujahideen of the Islamic Resistance attacked five Zionist border sites: Jal Al-Alam, Birkat Risha, Ramya Site, Al-Manara Site, and Al-Abad Site, with direct and appropriate weapons. ‏> Victory comes only from God, the Mighty, the Wise.

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[–] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Zionist media reports that an IOF heavy-lift cargo helicopter was shot down by the resistance, being destroyed completely and killing dozens inside.

It is unclear whether the event is from this morning, when reports of a downed IOF aircraft were made, or the same as the four helicopters that were hit by resistance fighters on the same day of Al-Aqsa Flood. Notably, soon after that news, Al-Qassam Brigades revealed its Mutabbir-1 and Mutabbir-3 anti-aircraft systems.

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[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Pentagon officials told CNN they are concerned about the need to continue to supply ammunition to Ukraine and Israel over time, and also express concern about the state of the US weapons stockpile.

At the moment, the needs of Israel and Ukraine are different, and if Kiev mainly requires artillery ammunition, then in Jerusalem they are mainly interested in missiles for the Iron Dome complex and high-precision weapons.

Despite this, Washington has expressed concern that if Israel launches a ground operation in the Gaza Strip, it will begin to demand huge quantities of artillery ammunition.

National Security Council spokesman John Kirby tonight: "We are starting to run out of room to support Ukraine and Israel with existing means."

Slavyangrad

Relevant CNN article

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago

Hezbollah are calling the attacks they've made only a response to Israel's attacks earlier today. They're not an invasion, just tit for tat.

Israel has responded to this with artillery shelling but I can't really confirm what they fired at.

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