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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (1 children)

mrs. krabappel and hamas were in the closet beheading babies and I saw the babies and the babies looked at me

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[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

From the mod that I suspect banned me from r/geopolitics today, where I had been active for like 4 years lol:

Insinuation that Israel has always wanted to take over Gaza, or any other fully Arab areas, and wants to now. The demographics would never work for the State of Israel, so annexing Gaza is a no-go. The presumption that the Israeli government would consider other options, such as mass deportation (or worse) to get rid of the Palestinians shows of the commenter that their comprehension of geopolitical affairs is quite crude. Further, the commenter's gross negligence of the history of the region and the context through which Israeli happened to acquire the occupied territories, demonstrates either a lack of knowledge of the situation or the intent to push an agenda (particularly evidenced by the multiple references to Netanyahu as if he were the only decision maker in the Israel).

https://reddit.com/r/geopolitics/s/13jnOb9Ye4

Started looking through the mod list to find a potential comrade who might unban me, and realizing it's all neoliberal/worldnews/warthunder freaks.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (15 children)

Right now my least favorite words are...

  • baby
  • babies
  • the humanitarian crisis

 

Libs use phrases like "the humanitarian crisis" as a thought terminating cliché. It's an intro to a short segment about the situation that somehow Israel has zero responsibility for. Every time.

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What are your least favorite words right now?

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[–] Zrc@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (5 children)

While other news outlets, including the Associated Press and Al Jazeera, said the shells were Israeli, Reuters could not establish whether the missiles had actually been fired by Israel.

petition to include Reuters in next weeks cuck and chad ranking

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[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (1 children)

kadyrov came out in support of palestine

https://t.me/RKadyrov_95/3985

We fully support Palestine's actions because Israel has taken their land and now keeps them in isolation.

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[–] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The Israeli military has suggested that Palestinians fleeing its air strikes in the Gaza Strip head to Egypt, which also borders the blockaded enclave.

"I am aware that the Rafah crossing (on the Gaza-Egypt border) is still open," Lieutenant-Colonel Richard Hecht, chief military spokesperson to the foreign media, said in a briefing.

"Anyone who can get out, I would advise them to get out."

His office then issued a statement which said:

"Clarification: The Rafah crossing was open yesterday, but now it is closed."

neat

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (11 children)

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-planning-to-send-10000-troops-to-capture-gaza-city-kill-sinwar-officials/

Israel planning to send 10,000 troops to capture Gaza City, kill Sinwar — officials

Bro, that's not going to be enough.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Israeli forces distribute 1,000 M16 rifles to settlers in West Bank | Al Bawaba

I never heard of the site I'm linking to. I wanted to link to a news site I know but the western media seems to have entirely ignored this.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Israel is doing mao's struggle sessions, a doxxing truck drove around Harvard University campus with digital billboards displaying the names and photos of students who allegedly signed an open letter blaming Israel for Hamas' attack.

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[–] TheGamingLuddite@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I've seen Zionists near one of the settlements Hamas attacked justify Israel's atrocities by complaining about their "right to comfort" after all water and food to Gaza had been cut off. This is an entire nation with the mindset of American small business cretins who scream at service workers and call the cops on black people having a cookout. The most hysterical reactionary at a school board meeting given a gun and a flag and given license to attack brown people with impunity.

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[–] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (11 children)
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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Israeli military spokesman confirms Palestinian Resistance fighters are still present in the Gaza envelope area, and "it is still a combat zone."

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (7 children)
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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago

Tomorrow, no matter how long it takes, we will celebrate—certainly—the liberation of the land, the liberation of Al-Quds, the liberation of the entire land of Palestine"

-Martyred PFLP founder and Secretary-General Al-Hakim, George Habash

https://streamable.com/uzomor

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (15 children)

went out to get some beer and holy shit people are on one. i think it's a combination of friday the 13th in october, the eclipse tomorrow, the apocalyptic holy war in the middle east, and mercury being in retrograde

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[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I know it seems like Ukraine is that toy story meme but don't you love being right about stuff?

AFP interviews Ukrainian soldiers, confirms Russian narratives

The recapture of the small village in the Zaporizhzhia region was announced in August as a strategic victory in the counteroffensive. Yet eight Ukrainian soldiers involved in the fighting told AFP their forces were only inching forward with heavy losses against a Russian army entrenched behind heavily fortified positions.

Igor Korol, the heavily tattooed(PS: I'd love to see those tattoos BTW, nothing but completely normal "viking runes" surely) commander of the brigade's first battalion, spoke calmly but did not mince his words. For him, the announcement of the capture of Robotyne on August 28 was primarily a PR move, since the village, occupied since early in the war, has no strategic value.

"We could have gone around it," he said, speaking to AFP in an area near the front line. "We love big announcements, quick victories. The reality is different," said the commander who uses the call sign "Morpekh" (Marine).

Korol said his men are still not able to move freely around the area because of Russian fire, even though they hold the territory, calling it a "gray zone".

Soldiers from the 65th brigade said Russia fires 10 shells for every "one or two" from their side. The same goes for drones.

"We are fighting against... a massive country. They have more men, more equipment," said Oleksandr, a 27-year-old soldier with the call sign "Storm".

This is constantly repeated by the armchair YT pro-Russian "analysts" whatever you call them, for months now. Also casualy admitting huge losses:

Without air cover, Ukraine's military can only move very slowly.

"The price is the life of our men... and we have very few (reserves) of men," Korol said.

Mykola or "Doc", a combat paramedic, acknowledged "the cost is very high", describing evacuations of wounded men under fire.

TL;DR Ukrainian commander among other soldiers admits Rabotyne was in fact nothing but a PR move, the Russian side is once again vindicated as providing reasonably accurate reporting on the desperate inferiority of the Ukrainian side, they lack firepower and continue to suffer huge casulaties. The village itself was in fact not strategically significant and even 2 months after "capturing it" Ukrainian army can't even move around it.

Too bad only nerds on the internet will read this shit.

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Hussein Mortada, journalist close to Hezbollah on NBN screen:

The resistance has penetrated the security apparatus of the occupying entity, and a number of Zionists have been recruited for the resistance

There are officers in the occupation army who cooperated with the resistance, and this is a sensitive operation.

The resistance has recruited officers and soldiers on its behalf, and investigations will prove this.

The resistance benefited from the political conflict within the occupying entity with the aim of bringing down the Netanyahu government

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[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If you’re in an org, plan for Friday

full communiqué text“ An urgent appeal: The resistance has declared this Friday October 13th the "Friday of Al-Aqsa Flood."

To those in the West Bank: they call for "mass mobilization, to shake the ground beneath the feet of the zionist invaders and their herds of settlers, to confront their soldiers and cowardly army everywhere."

To those in the occupied interior: "This day is your day to mobilize, gather, and unite in the blessed Al-Aqsa Mosque. Let us unify with the sons of your people in Gaza and the West Bank."

To those in the diaspora: "March towards the borders of beloved Palestine in massive crowds, declaring our solidarity with Palestine, Al-Quds, and Al-Aqsa. If geography prevents them, let them gather at the nearest point towards Al-Aqsa."

And to the free people of the world: "Mobilize in solidarity with our Palestinian people and to support their just cause and legitimate rights to freedom, independence, return, and self-determination."

"Palestine calls upon you, and Al-Aqsa calls upon you."

For the love of Al-Aqsa, we resist. Al-Aqsa inspires us. Resistance binds us.

With our martyrs as our guides, we march towards our Quds. Liberation nears.”

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Henceforth will only be referring to Joe Biden as Genocide Joe.

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[–] Cummunism@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

marxists: we should take out the people in power

Israel fans: KILL THE POOR

fucking christ people are really showing their asses. i found out i know maybe 6 comrades out of hundreds of people i have some form of contact with.

[–] Cigarette_comedian@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago

On the Ukrainian front, nothing new.

On the Palestinian front however, there is nothing but news.

[–] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Thread on Palestinian orgs to donate to. Feel free to add to the list and please consider contributing if you're able: https://hexbear.net/post/816379

We can give the Palestinians our posting and our energy, but it also helps to give them some cold hard cash if we can.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hamas released a video showing how they actually treated babies during their invasion

https://streamable.com/uwk4wz

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Houthis announce willingness to participate in hostilities on the side of the Palestinians - Al-Masirah TV

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[–] IceWallowCum@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Israeli sources: At least 12 missiles were launched from southern Lebanon towards Mount Hermon and the Upper Galilee

From here

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[–] Zrc@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (5 children)

in yet another attack on freedom Putler doesn't unequivocally support the genocide of all Palestinians

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[–] gabaghoul@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago

12 NC House Members walked out of the chamber during the vote to support Israel. It's not much, but at least they didn't vote for it.

https://www.carolinajournal.com/video/north-carolina-house-votes-104-0-for-resolution-urging-congress-to-support-israel/

[–] Teekeeus@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago

If the west wants to stop the middle east from aligning with the Russia/China bloc they're not doing a very good job right now

[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (8 children)
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