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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
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Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


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Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

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On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

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Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Iran's Foreign Minister Amir Abdollahian met with the Hezbollah Secretary General, Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah

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[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

“I remember going through 9/11 and waking up the next day, the next week, and everything had changed,” he said. “It’s the same thing again. But worse because we’re such a small country.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/10/israel-hamas-carnage-00120858

The 9/11 comparisons are so fucking cynical. Just a play on the deep-seated Islamophobia inside the heart of every American.

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[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

I don't doubt there are Arab fascists out there, but isn't it strange that 99% of what we see reported by the western media as well as Palestinian media, Nazi symbols aren't used as a "psyop" tactic against Israel? Strange that Ukraine keeps using it and westerners keep defending them as if they have no choice. It's almost as if waving around a Nazi flag in battle is a deliberate announcement that you're a fascist.

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[–] InappropriateEmote@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Wikipedia (to the surprise of no one here I'm sure) is in full propaganda mode along with the rest of the MSM, without even a pretense that it's not.

I happened to look up "Qassam rocket" (incidentally, due to an unrelated comment by @LargePenis@hexbear.net here) and this is what shows up in the ddg results for the wikipedia article.

The Qassam rocket is a simple, steel artillery rocket developed and deployed by the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military arm of Hamas. These rockets cannot be fired to target specific military objectives in or near civilian areas, and are "indiscriminate when used against targets in population centers".

But all the bombs including cluster bombs and white phosphorous that Israel is using to flatten Palestinian neighborhoods have "surgical precision."

The Qassam rocket is a simple, steel artillery rocket developed and deployed by the Hamas military arm. It is used by Palestinian militants to target civilian targets in the Gaza Strip and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but it is too inaccurate and prone to malfunction.

Oh, those rockets are used exclusively by militants to target civilians. That's it though, they're made to single out civilians. Oh but they constantly malfunction no doubt because they're made by subhumans. I guess that explains why so many military targets get hit by them - the rockets were meant to kill civilians, but because they're so inaccurate, they end up hitting military installations instead. Makes sense.

Edit: I'm getting different results in the text each time I do the search. I guess they're editing it a lot right now. Each fucking entry still focuses on these rockets being specifically civilian-murder devices though.

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[–] OrlandoDeCabron@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (2 children)

6k comments unlimited genocide on the first world

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[–] Torenico@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Israel has always been a genocidal force, their goal from minute zero has been to displace as many arabs as they could and if they had die, then they would kill them. And I have always seen people trying to justify their actions by saying "Israel has a right to defend itself" or "If they don't do this, they would get destroyed by the arabs instead". But the level of viciousness that I have seen these days is staggering, something that I haven't seen before, just barely any questioning, outright calling for the massacre of palestinians both in Gaza and also in the West Bank. Israeli politicians and the military going fully mask off, like they don't even try to hide it anymore. Now they fully reveal their intentions, like one Knesset member said "What we want is Nakba", how military commanders are saying "We are fighting animals".

It's pure insanity, not only the shit that's coming from Israel but also the western media and it's vassals going full mask off and fully supporting the idea of genocide. In Argentina we have almost non stop coverage of argentinians zionist colonizers who went to live on stolen land in southern occupied Palestine and are always telling us how frightened they are because they had to live 15 minutes inside a bomb shelter, thus, it is morally acceptable to bomb the living shit out of Gaza. By the way, the "40 beheaded babies" here was NEVER disputed, it is taken as a straight fact by the media.

And then there's the city of Gaza itself, which is by now just target practice for the IDF and it's air force. They just bomb it indiscriminatelly as we can already tell, whatever block they want to erase they will erase it, nobody asks why it just happens. Thousands upon thousands have died and many more will continue to die as we sit idly and just watch. There's something so wicked about the bombing of Gaza, something that I have never seen before... the city is completely defenseless, it can't fight back, once a fighter jet is heard no alarm is sounded, no anti aircraft battery opens fire, nothing happens, it's just a fucking war criminal in his shiny gringo-made F-15 pressing a button and killing two dozen people or more, at will. Gaza is at their complete mercy and the narrative barely is "But Hamas..."

But despite all this, I have full faith that our brothers and sisters in Palestine and in the Arab World will find the strenght to fight back against this genocidal colonial regime, and they will achieve victory. Zionism and colonialism are destined to fail, they cannot sustain themselves for too long. The anti-Zionist and anti-Colonial struggle will never die out as long as there is one colonial subject, the struggle will live on and ultimately victory will be ours.

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[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago

The worst thing about Israeli propaganda is that they're just straight up rebranding Israeli crimes as Palestinian ones.

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Bank of Israel to sell $30 billion to stop shekel collapse during Gaza war

Central bank says will operate in market in order to ‘moderate volatility’ in shekel exchange rate, will also provide dollar liquidity through SWAP mechanisms of up to $15 billion

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[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have to object to this item in the sidebar:

Using April 1st as an excuse to post fake headlines, like the death of Kissinger while he is still unfortunately alive, will result in the poster being thrown in the gamer gulag and be sentenced to play and beat trashy mobile games like 'Raid: Shadow Legends' in order to be rehabilitated back into general society.

Raid is an Israeli game and should not be played by anyone

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[–] smokeppb@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (3 children)

From Seymour Hersh: "NETANYAHU IS FINISHED"

Some choice excerpts:

The Sukkot celebration, held near a Palestinian village known in Hebrew as Haware, would need extraordinary protection, given the tension over the latest violence, and the local Israeli military authorities, with the approval of Netanyahu, ordered two of the three Army battalions, each with about 800 soldiers, that protected the border with Gaza to shift their focus to the Sukkot festival.

“That left only eight hundred soldiers,” the insider told me, “to be responsible for guarding the 51-kilometer border between the Gaza Strip and southern Israel. That meant the Israeli citizens in the south were left without an Israeli military presence for ten to twelve hours. They were left to fend for themselves. And that is why Bibi is finished. May take a few months, but he is over.”

Nothing we don't know, Netanyahu done goofed by moving troops away from Gaza at the critical moment.

As for a ground attack, the insider told me that there is a brutal alternative under consideration that could be described as the Leningrad approach, referring to the famed German effort to starve out the city now known as St. Petersburg during World War II. The Nazi siege lasted nearly 900 days and the death toll was at least 800,000 and possibly many more. It is known that the Hamas leadership and much of its manpower “live underground,” and Israel’s goal is to destroy as much of that manpower “without attempting a traditional house-to-house attack.”

"The Leningrad Approach". strangelove

The insider added that some Israelis were “made anxious” by the initial statements from world leaders in Germany, France, and England who avowed, in one case through an aide, their total support for an immediate response but added that it should be guided by the rule of law. President Biden reinforced that point in an unscheduled appearance at a White House conference of Jewish leaders Wednesday by pointedly saying that he had recently told Netanyahu: “it is really important that Israel, with all the anger and frustration and just—I don’t know how to explain it—that exists is that they operate by the rules of war—the rules of war. And there are rules of war.”

Foolish international leaders, don't they know Israel runs purely on war crimes? It's like telling a shark to stop swimming, they need to swim to breathe.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

https://streamable.com/u8z1eg

One of the members of the attacked settlements made a plea for peace, not revenge. They lay the blame on Bibi. Good example of how the political situation is pretty mixed in Israel right now.

-Citizens of Israel, politicians, residents of Israel and abroad, I don't care who hears this, listen to me carefully. Those speaking of revenge, should be ashamed. Don't offer up 'soldiers' or 'protection'. Talk to me about a political solution.

-I know there is much anger towards Bibi, because I feel it. How many people must die for his ego and his personal interests? Our blood is on his hands. But it's not just him. If my words are heard by anyone, take a good look at yourselves, look deep inside, ask yourselves what your values are. Ask yourselves who it is you vote for. I know what I am demanding. I am demanding a just peace.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago

MSNBC has had a vocab change. For Israel's ground war it seems they stopped using the word "imminent" and they have moved on to "inevitable".

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Holy fucking shit - the homepage of the New York Times is in chef's kiss mode today. And I still have a couple articles to have a look at.

Don't miss the punchline at the very bottom.

archive.today • Opinion | I'm Going to War for Israel. Palestinians Are Not My Enemy. - The New York Times

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[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (7 children)

r/worldnews thread about Israel's bullshit evacuation warning has mostly decent comments

I think Israel is going too far for the propaganda apparatus to whitewash for much longer. The Hamas attack was an easy win for Western media, but we're in a week where decades happen, they can only talk about this one incident for so many days before people have heard enough, and then all that's left will be Israel's ongoing ethnic cleansing. If this is still going on a week from now, let alone two weeks, you won't be able to get as many people with "but muh terrorism" anymore, especially as the death toll grows ever more out of proportion. Reddit libs are already calling it "ethnic cleansing", Western media won't be able to keep this down much longer.

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[–] Torenico@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago

Editor-in-Chief of the Propaganda Wing of the Apartheid Regime (Jerusalem Post) says:

"The world's solidarity with Israel following the murder of more than 900 Israelis is heartwarming and appreciated. But the true test will be this: Who will continue to stand by Israel when we do what we must to deal Hamas a devastating, crushing, game-changing blow?"

These people are literally saying "You must not be disturbed when we do a little genocide in Gaza", because there's no other thing they "must do". Flattening the entire city of Gaza with all 2 million people inside it is what our friend Avi Mayer is implying here.

Source

Still, Avi doesn't have to ask too much. He knows his western friends will look the other way as his regime continues to kill Palestinians, that's just their default position when non-whites are massacred by the thousands just for asking for freedom.

[–] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can't wait for the next one to five years until the hit, billion dollar grossing blockbuster film about these events comes out, Thoroughly dripping with obvious fascist themes and imagery, yet widely acclaimed by run of the mill Hamilton type liberals.

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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

For years, elite colleges—and other influential institutions—have lent their prestige to once-radical concepts like decolonization, seeming to imagine that they could be kept separate from the gruesome histories out of which they emerged. Fanon, the intellectual godfather of “decolonial” thought, wasn’t so naïve. As the world becomes more dangerous again, the luxury of metaphorical radicalism may prove too costly to sustain.

"The violence which governed the ordering of the colonial world ... this same violence will be vindicated and appropriated when, taking history into their own hands, the colonized swarm into the forbidden cities..."

  • Frantz Fanon, The Wretched of the Earth.

"Middle class" radicals meet real world politics with actual consequences on the the ground = the complete collapse of their radicalism. Scratch a liberal and all that.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (5 children)

American companies are whack. Any humanitarian aid going to Israel is grotesque.

I've learned that Comcast is committing $2 million to aid humanitarian efforts unfolding in Israel and the Middle East.

"We are horrified & deeply saddened by the brutal attack on Israel," Comcast CEO Brian Roberts & president Mike Cavanagh wrote to employees earlier this week.

Nitter

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[–] TheDeed@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago

M virtue signaling lib job is really rah rahing about the "terrorist attacks" and "seeing and hearing us" "you are valid" etc and I feel like I'm losing my mind

the sheer speed at which the narrative has formed is fucking scary, feels a bit like 9/11 . everyone is just going along with it, no questions asked and you're a monster if you point out that the Palestinians are being genocided.

Being pro-palestine would be effectively career suicide for me ofc so I just have to sit there and seethe

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Latest from Seymour Hersh.

THE PLAN TO WIPE OUT HAMAS

As refugees crowd the border with Egypt, Israel prepares to hit Gaza City with US-supplied bunker busters

full article

It’s been one week since the horrific Hamas attacks on Israel took place, and the shape of what is to come from the Israeli armed forces is clear, and uncompromising.

Over the past week Israeli jets have conducted around-the-clock bombing of non-military targets in Gaza City. Apartment buildings, hospitals, and mosques were torn apart, with no prior warning and no effort to minimize civilian casualties.

By the end of the week Israeli jets were also dropping leaflets telling the citizens of Gaza City and its surrounding areas in the north that those who wished to survive had better start going south—walking if necessary—25 miles or more—to the Rafah border crossing leading to Egypt. As of this writing, it was not clear whether financially stricken Egypt will allow a million immigrants, many of them committed to the Hamas cause, to cross. In the short term, I have been told by an Israeli insider Israel has been trying to convince Qatar, which at the urging of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was a long-time financial supporter of Hamas, to join with Egypt in funding a tent city for the million or more refugees awaiting across the border. “It’s not a done deal,” the Israeli insider told me. Israeli officials have warned Egypt and Qatar that without a landing site, the refugees will have to “go back to Gaza.”

One possible site, the insider said, is a long abandoned chunk of land in northern part of the Sinai Peninsula, near the border crossing from Gaza, that was the site of an Israeli settlement known as Yamit when the peninsula was seized by Israel after its victory the Six-Day War of 1967. The settlement was evacuated and bulldozed by Israel before Sinai was returned to Egypt in 1982. The Israeli hope is that Qatar and Egypt will take the refugee crisis off its hands.

Israel’s obvious contempt for the well-being of the citizenry of Gaza amid the forced migration of more than one million starving human beings has captured the world’s attention and led to increasing international condemnation, much of it aimed at Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu

And so the next stage must come soon. Here is what I have been told, in my conversations in recent days with officials from Israel and elsewhere, including officials I have dealt with in Europe and the Middle East since the Vietnam war, about the Israeli plan for the elimination of Hamas.

The major issue for the Israeli war planners is a reluctance, despite the mobilization of more than 300,000 reservists, to engage in a door-to-door street battle with Hamas in Gaza City. One veteran of the IDF, who served in a high post, told me that half of the Israeli Army has been engaged for the past decade or more in the protection of the increasing number of small settlements scattered in the West Bank where they are bitterly resented by the Palestinian population. “The Israeli planners don’t trust their infantry,” the insider said, nor their willingness to go to war but what could be a disastrous lack of combat experience.

With the starved-out civilian population forced to leave, the Israeli operational plan calls for the Air Force to destroy the remaining structures in Gaza City and elsewhere in the north. Gaza City will be no more. Israel will then begin dropping American-made 5,000-pound bombs known as “bunker busters,” or JDAMs, in the flattened areas where Hamas fighters are known to live and manufacture their missiles and other weapons underground. An improved version of the weapon, known as GBU-43/B, depicted by the media as “the mother of all bombs,” was dropped on a suspected ISIS command center in Afghanistan by the US in April 2017. An early version of the weapon was sold to Israel in 2005, allegedly for use against Iran’s suspected nuclear facilities, and the improved, laser-guided version was authorized for sale to Israel by the Obama administration a decade ago. Even then, the Israeli insider told me, Netanyahu and his advisers understood that Netanyahu’s support for Hamas was dangerous, like “keeping a tiger as a pet.” “He would eat you in a minute.”

The current Israeli war planners are convinced, the insider told me, that the upgraded version of JDAMs with larger warheads would penetrate deep enough underground before detonating—thirty to fifty meters—with the blast and resulting sound wave “killing all within one-half mile.” The insider said it was his understanding that the Hamas leadership wanted some civilians to stay put because of their need for “human shields.” The new Israeli plan of forced exit means “at least the people would not all be killed.” The concept, he added pointedly, dated back to the early years of América’s Vietnam War, when President John F. Kennedy’s administration authorized the Strategic Hamlet Plan that called for the forced relocation of Vietnamese civilians in contested areas to hastily built housing in areas thought to be controlled by the South Vietnamese. Their deserted lands were then declared to be Free Fire Zones where all who stayed could be targeted by American troops.

The systematic destruction of the remaining buildings in Gaza City will start within days, the Israeli insider said. The bunker-buster JDAMs could come next. Then, in the planners’ scenario, I was told, the Israeli infantry will be assigned to mop-up operations: searching out and killing those Hamas fighters and workers who managed to survive the JDAM attacks.

Asked why the Israeli planners thought the Egyptian government would agree, even if under pressure from the Biden administration, to accept the more than one million refugees from Gaza, the insider said: “We’ve got Egypt by the balls.” He was referring to the recent indictments of Democratic Senator Robert Menendez of New Jersey and his wife on federal corruption charges stemming from his business dealings with senior Egyptian officials, and the alleged passing of intelligence about persons serving at the US Embassy in Cairo. Egyptian President Abdul Fatta el-Sisi, who seized power in a 2014 coup, ousting the elected Muslim Brotherhood, is a retired general who headed Egyptian’s military intelligence service from 2010 to 2012.

Not everyone shared the assumption that all would go well after the JDAM attacks, if they take place. One former European intelligence official who served for years in the Middle East told me, “The Egyptians do not want Hamas coming into Egypt, and [SO?] they will do the minimum.”

When told of the Israeli plan to utilize JDAMS, he said that “a city in rubble is just as dangerous as at any time. The talk of JDAMS is the talk of people who don’t know what to do.

Hamas is saying, ‘Bring it on.’ They are waiting for this.” Using JDAMS “is the talk of a leadership that has been knocked off its feet. This was a carefully planned operation and Hamas knew exactly what the Israeli reaction would be. Urban warfare is awful.”

The official predicted that the Israeli bunker-buster bombs would not penetrate deep enough: Hamas, he said, was operating in tunnels built 60 meters underground that would be able to withstand the JDAM attacks.

Told this, the Israeli insider acknowledged that underground rocks and boulders would limit the capability of the rockets to penetrate deeply, but the underground surface in Gaza City is sandy and would offer little resistance, especially if the JDAMs were released from the highest point possible.

The insider also said the current planning calls for the JDAMs attack, if authorized, to come as early as Sunday or Monday, depending on the efficacy the forced expulsion of Gazi City and south proceeds, with a ground invasion to follow immediately.

So, for whatever reason, Israel thinks that they can get Egypt to take Palestinians because Bob Menendez is indicted...? Do they think Sisi is going to extradite himself or anyone else to the US?

As usual, the politicians have likely way too much faith in their wunderwaffen and the troops are almost entirely unprepared for urban combat.

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[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago

we only need 993784 comments until one million. come on people. post harder

[–] CarmineCatboy@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (4 children)

i'm starting to think that the servers can take a 1000+ post megathread

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[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

On September 8, 1941, less than three months after the Soviet Union was first attacked in World War II, Leningrad (as St. Petersburg was called at the time) was completely sealed off from the rest of the country. Nazi Germany planned to “erase it from the face of the Earth,” according to historic documents. Thus began the Siege of Leningrad, often called “900 Days of Courage.”

What the Germans didn’t count on was that the citizens of Leningrad would not give up. They’d rather die than give up. They would bury artwork, plant vegetables in the Summer Gardens, evacuate children in trucks across the frozen Lake Ladoga, survive on boiling leather belts and making pancakes out of weeds, hold nightly watches to put out fire grenades and work at factories around the clock but never let the enemy step into their city.

Entire Leningrad families died from hunger. There's a piece of bread on display at the [museum of the Piskariovskoye Memorial Cemetery] . A daily ration for the people of Leningrad, it is a 125-gram rock made of sawdust and flour.

https://news.itmo.ru/en/features/life_in_russia/news/9122/

Gallant, using the strongest language of the three, said “we will wipe them off the face of the Earth.”

Their tone signaled Israel may be entering final preparations for what officials believe could be an invasion of the narrow strip of land, wedged between Israel and Egypt, that has been under Hamas control.

https://time.com/6322897/israel-leaders-vow-destroy-hamas-gaza-war/

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[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Cop Mayor Adams is talking about how there aren't any actual threats to NYC, but the pigs must stay vigilant because there are people who are radicalized now. FFS, this is so irresponsible. Islamophobia had taken a back seat to sinophobia for a while, but I wouldn't be shocked if there was an increase in hate crimes against any Muslims or anyone that might look Middle Eastern soon.

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

If a state of affairs requires extreme violence to achieve, then it will require extreme violence to demolish. The more violence involved to create it, the more violence is takes to destroy it - they are proportional.

the "exceptions" like the fall of the USSR and the British Empire - "the Bolsheviks killed many reactionaries, and later Nazis, to create the USSR and the USSR fell without that much violence! the British Empire was extremely violent but their countries were given independence in the 20th century!" are false exceptions that are only believable with an extremely narrow definition of violence. with a more appropriately broad definition, the dramatic fall of the USSR created massive destitution and impoverished many people and cut down their living standards dramatically across the former USSR. The British Empire in several cases did "allow" countries to have independence, but many of these countries broke out into violence in the months and years afterwards as the empire-bestowed systems could not be maintained by the typically British-friendly comprador government. in West Africa, we can see many countries that were once part of France but are still locked in their orbit despite having de jure independence, and it will almost certainly require violence to break that state of affairs.

the same is true in Israel. The oppression of Palestinians required extreme, overwhelming violence, and it seems guaranteed to me that a similar degree of violence will be unleashed to topple the regime and restore the basic human rights of Palestinians.

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[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (3 children)

hamas is like dumbledores army and israel is like death eaters. thank you for coming to my ted talk

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[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Alex Christ for You made a very good point on his show today. People been speculating for a year and a half about the collective west opening a 2nd front against Russia and where that would happen (Georgia color revolt? Transnistria attacked by Ukraine/Moldova? Poland/Ukraine going for Kaliningrad?).

Turns out the opposite happened, and Russia still has 1 front against Ukraine but NATO/the collective west just got split to a secondary front in Israel. Their money, weapon shipments, artillery shell production, etc will be split and distracted. Many speculate the America's Vietnam War project suffered disastrously shortly after the 1st Yom Kippur war when a bunch of stuff was re-directed to Israel instead of Vietnam.

It's like poetry, it rhymes

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

Do you think we could popularise the phrase "Cyberfascism" as a label for all the content that games companies keep churning out that they claim is "cyberpunk" when it's actually like "haha you get to play as a cop" or "haha you're a cyber mercenary, this is cyberpunk I definitely understand this genre" (Bungie's upcoming Tarkov-like game).

The opposite of cyberpunk in my mind is cyberfascism. And this content fits that label real well.

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[–] TheCaconym@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Interesting article in naked capitalism that contains an info I had not seen before:

Palestinian forces made substantial inroads, advancing into Israeli camps and targeting the 8200th Intelligence Unit among other 11 military barracks. This unit, a linchpin of the Israeli intelligence apparatus, is directly linked to the Gaza Division Command and oversees drones that gather intelligence for Israeli targeting.

The successful attack on this unit, resulting in its destruction and the reported capture or elimination or escape of its personnel, has severely affected the Israeli military’s intelligence capabilities. This setback is evident in the Israeli army’s lack of actionable intelligence.

The unit mentioned has apparently been described as "Israel's NSA". Yet another element showing this was brilliantly planned.

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[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Anyone post this?

As Israel escalates its attacks on Gaza, the State Department is discouraging diplomats working on Middle East issues from making public statements suggesting the U.S. wants to see less violence, according to internal emails viewed by HuffPost.

In messages circulated on Friday, State Department staff wrote that high-level officials do not want press materials to include three specific phrases: “de-escalation/ceasefire,” “end to violence/bloodshed” and “restoring calm.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/state-department-internal-emails-gaza-israel_n_65296395e4b0a304ff6ff95d

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In his first public statement since the start of Operation Al-Aqsa Flood, Russian President Vladimir Putin harshly criticized US foreign policy and blamed Washington for the crisis in Israel. “I think many will agree with me that this is a clear example of the failure of US policy in [West Asia],” Putin said during a Kremlin meeting with Iraqi Prime Minister Mohammed Shia al-Sudani.

“[Washington] tried to monopolize regulating [the conflict] but was unfortunately unconcerned with finding compromises acceptable for both sides … It put forward ideas on how it should be done and pressured both sides. Each time, however, without taking into account the fundamental interests of the Palestinian people," he added.

Putin's words echo those of Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, who earlier this week met with Arab League Secretary-General Ahmed Aboul Gheit. "Apart from ending the fighting and solving the problem of numerous civilian casualties that are being recorded, there is also a need to pay special attention to the reasons why it has been impossible to resolve the Palestinian issue for decades," Lavrov said on Monday.

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[–] SoloboiNanook@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hate to do vibes based posting but shit feels extremely weird rn. Not in the normal everyone is frothing at the mouth and normal media insanity but weird ethereal feeling of "holy shit is everything really at the brink right now?" Kind of feeling.

Shit just dont feel good, like something extremely fucked up is in the air. Like the big one is about to happen. Maybe im just falling for the media panic or something idk.

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[–] Flinch@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The news has a fucking scoreboard for casualties on their reporting, like it's the fuckin Superbowl or some shit. Disgustingly depraved country amerikkka

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[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago

This just in: Hexbear dying as the news mega's stalinium balls weigh down the site

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (1 children)

While the U.S. has granted a blank check to Tel Aviv, Russia and China have both called for a ceasefire to protect civilian lives.

Beyond being the moral thing to do, given the situational dynamics, it’s also just sound strategy. The Islamic World is rightly aflame in anger at the treatment of Palestinians and now has found a coalition partner which can advance its interests.

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