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Sure you have, it was called Trump's first term.

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[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 147 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Despite his troubles, Maxwell remains supportive of Trump, saying that he is “going to be patient,” adding, “I believe in our president.”

However, there is a limit to Maxwell’s patience with Trump. “We’re giving him the chance to follow through with the tariffs, but there had better be results,” he said. “I think we need to be seeing something in 18 months or less. We understand risk—and it had better pay off.”

They're giving him 18 MONTHS?? For fuck sake, these people Do. Not. Learn.

[–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 72 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s only 24 months. I bet it won’t even take the whole 36 months. Just a quick and easy definitely less than 48 months.

[–] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 week ago

“He needs a third term…”

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They didn't recover a large part of their soy bean market during Biden's administration where China picked back up some of the ag products and now they lost all of the market. They're idiots if they think that this will recover any of their markets at any significant part this time around.

[–] rayyy@piefed.social 18 points 1 week ago

Once China develops a buying source they aren't likely to ever return. Why would they?

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What do they even see as a positive outcome of the tariff shenanigans?

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That more Americas will.. uhh... buy tofu, I guess?? Enough to make up for the entire Asia markets?

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago

They didn't learn in his first term. No way they'll learn anything here either. These people are completely fucking stupid and never voted for him based on any kind of intelligence.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's not trying to learn anything, he just wanted an excuse to kick the can down the road 18 months.

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[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 118 points 1 week ago (4 children)

“So much of what has happened and what’s going on here is totally out of our control,” Meadows said. “We just want a free, fair, and open market where we can sell our goods... as competitively as anybody else around the world. And we do feel that we produce a superior product here in the United States, and we just need to have the markets.”

The Republican small government, everyone

Why do I feel like these same people would say Biden’s economy was worse for them?

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 66 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

“The weather is in the control of a higher power,” he added, “and the economy and the markets are in control of Washington, DC.”

Yep! Nothing at all that could have been done about either of these situations. Just two natural disasters sent by god themself. What a shame.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] snooggums@piefed.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They learned nothing from his first term where he screwed them over by targeting immigrants and he just dialed that part up and added more.

Absolute morons.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Yeah but imagine voting for a black woman. The dem candidate could have promised them wild subsidies the likes the they never dreamed, but if it was “sleepy joe” or any other minority they disliked they still would have chosen Trump

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

It was in their control. They gave it up by voting against their own interests despite being told loudly

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

And we do feel that we produce a superior product here in the United States, and we just need to have the markets.

lol. lmao even.

Facts don't care about your feelings bitch!

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[–] 7112@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

MARC ANDEREESON wanted to buy up farm land in Solarno CA, for his "California Forever" private owned town.

Thiel has expressed similar.

Musk has his own corporate town (Starbase, Texas).

Bezos has an area of Malaysia.

Zuck has parts of Hawaii.

Sam Altman invests in a private town in Honduras.

....they ALL want private towns, fifedoms to rule over in America. And by rule over, I mean SETTING THEIR OWN LAWS.

This is happening.

Anyways, I'm sure this story on Trump bankrupting farmers is completely unrelated. I certainly have no evidence it's related. But I think it's concerning (farmers refusing to sell large tracts of America is what held up the "California Forever" project).

You Aren't Allowed in These Billionaire Towns

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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This was all a calculated strategy to make independent farmers go bankrupt and into foreclosure, so that the big agritech companies could snag prime agricultural land for pennies on the dollar.

At some point, most food will be grown by corporations that can set whatever price they want for that food, and people will have to pay that price or starve to death. It’s the definition of “captured audience” that makes the Parasite Class extract so much wealth from the working class and become so fantastically wealthy.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That ain't workin', that's the way you do it

You play the martyr on the Fox TV

That ain't workin', that's the way you do it

Tariffs for nothin, no more sales for me

[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

See the little fascist with the hairplugs and the make up Yeah, buddy, not his own hair That little fascist got his own jet airplane That little fascist, he's a millionaire

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Now that ain't workin', that's the way you do it
Lemme tell ya, them guys are dumb

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[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They will get bailed out.

The people who vote Republican, and vote trump. They scream and screech about government spending. They complain about helping people with food stamps, free school lunches for kids. They reject Medicare for all and relieving college tuition debts. They vote to give tax decreases to billionaires who have 500 million dollar yachts, multiple hundred millions dollar mansions that sit empty, Lamborghinis that just sit there and never get driven.

They'll get bailed out with tax dollars. And they'll continue being hypocrites until they die.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

They're not against government benefits. They just believe that 90% of the recipients are lying, lazy, liberal commie, transgender, urban criminal freeloaders who just don't want to work. If we could just get rid of all the abusers then the programs would have enough money to pay to the people who really deserve and need it (ie themselves).

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They've already been bailed out. To the tune of $42B so far this year.

https://www.fb.org/market-intel/disaster-assistance-fuels-2025s-farm-income-rebound?_hsmi=379596581

That's the first step. The next step will be blaming the farmers for not fixing their problem, in whatever nebulous fashion they should have.

When it's the farmer's fault, no more bailouts. That's when AcreTrader will show up.

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[–] waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No way of knowing this would happen says people who were told repeatedly what would happen, shown the plan of what would happen, and given past historical examples of what would happen.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well, at least they don't have to worry about "liberals" inflicting horrible thoughts on them via Colbert or Kimmel.

Are they tired of all the winning yet?

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

According to the bots in r/Conservative, they are not.

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[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Oh noes! Reich Wingers getting exactly what they demanded, and feeling the consequences of it!

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[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You got exactly what you voted for you jackasses.

Go protest, cause I'd love the farmers to be antifa.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They might even already have pitchforks

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A really good piece on the realities of this topic is here: https://youtu.be/badGHJLDpP8

TL;DW: Farmers thought they were voting for cheap labor and a bailout, like they got last time. They also thought that, as wealthy landowners^1^, they were on the "right side" of these disastrous trade policies and were going to be carried through this mess.


^1.^ I struggled with this concept at first. Things have changed a lot since the pre-WWII era that conjures up images of Ma & Pa Kent in a weathered century-home, on a lonely corn farm in Kansas. It's big business now. Good farm land isn't cheap, equipment is expensive, (legitimate) labor is expensive, fertilizer & irrigation costs a lot, pest control costs, crops are risky in general, and so on. When you work out how much money is moving around and what a farm's net worth is, these people are millionaires even if they're not in the black all the time.

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What’s really funny to people outside of the US is that cheap labour and a bailout is exactly what they would hve received from Harris.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Agreed. Considering that the alternative to that is always higher food prices, it's political suicide to not do this.

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[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 20 points 1 week ago

Complains that Americans are too lazy to milk cows and doesn't realize they are part of that group. Doubt they will learn anything.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 17 points 1 week ago (4 children)

theres this farmer youtuber who was talking about this. She is like everyones like we never thought he would do this and she is like. You 100% knew he would do this from both his first term and everything he said before winning election.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Durrrrrr I'm gonna crack down on immigrant farm labor while I add lots of tariffs to foreign food durrrrrrrrrr

Fuckers trying to make America North Korea again

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

are the farmers in dire straits, or are independent farmers in dire straights?

i make the distinction because if the purpose is to make the rich, richer, then this is a feature, not a bug for republicans

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Yeah it's just the independent farmers. Here in Arkansas they're either losing their farms or straight up killing themselves, at a brisk pace too.

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[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago
[–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago

I have more sympathy for my toenail clippings than I do for Trump voters getting exactly what they voted for.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But at least the leopards are still well-fed

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[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago

I guess they have very short memories

[–] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Dont worry. Hard working people from blue states will bail them out. Again

[–] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

Maybe don't be a fucking moron and vote for a fucking moron then???

I hope leopards run wild in this country. Maybe a brain cell will rub against another braincell and spark a fucking thought in their tiny little skulls.

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