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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

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We all know confidently incorrect people. People displaying dunning-kruger. The majority of those people have low education and without someone giving them objectively true feedback on their opinions through their developmental years, they start to believe everything they think is true even without evidence.

Memorizing facts, dates, and formulas aren't what necessarily makes someone intelligent. It's the ability to second guess yourself and have an appropriate amount of confidence relative to your knowledge that is a sign of intelligence.

I could be wrong though.

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So here's how I liken education. I've been an instructor at the Naval Engineering School so have a bit of experience in the subject.

First thing to learn is "facts" by rote memorization and then parrot it back. If you can do that you have learned something which is not unimportant and is an important base for the next step.

Then you learn how to apply those facts to help you in a specific set of situations. This is a very small hop above the previous step, but an important one, as now you know how to solve a narrow set of problems in a specific set of circumstances.

Unfortunately, this is where a lot of education ends because this is the easiest level to test. To go beyond this, you as an instructor must inspire the students.

The third level is when you take the facts you know and the situations to apply them and start modifying them to fit new novel situations. This now requires active thinking on the part of the student and will likely result in a lot of mistakes and suffering but this is where the instructor can gently guide them along and nurture their curiosity and keep their spirits up when they fail.

Next level is an important one, when the student starts to ask, "why does this work this way in this situation and this way in this situation"? That is the start of true wisdom.

And the final level of education is when you go back and try to teach the subject. That is when you truly open yourself up to learning.

Depth of Knowledge levels aren't meant to be progressed through linearly, but a way to assess tasks. One student's mind might turn on at level three, but not at level one. Another might crumble at level 3 even if they've performed level 1 and 2 exceptionally.

That first student will, having been inspired by the nature of the question, go back and learn the basics. They need to be given material that supports that activity. The second student needs to know how to chunk and connect their previous tasks to the new one.

Great educators can personalize this work for each student and meet them where they are at. They can leverage technologies to do so and express sincere belief in students in a way no technology can.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Memorization have importance. We, as a species, are as intelligent as primitive cavemen. Our brains haven't changed that much since those times.

What allows us to be different, to have a prosper civilization, is the information we have stored. Much of that information is stored in our brains.

Critical thinking is of great importance. Of course. But let's not dismiss the ability to store that critical information.

[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Memory is often used as a facade to demonstrate intelligence that lacks thinking, though.

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're right (but obviously not completely)

The most important skill anyone can have is information literacy. Schools don't reach it at all.

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[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
  1. A peeve of mine is the ease at which they've correctly diagnosed the Dunning-Kuerger effect and liberally applied. Few, if any, recognize that there is controversy around the effect.
  2. I think your insight is part of a growth mindset. A concept championed by Carol Dweck, it has been embraced by educators and, unfortunately, abused by managers. Too many people think a growth mindset is better than a fixed mindset.

  1. Intelligence has many definitions and contexts. I agree that intellectual humility is a useful trait and makes people far more bearable to deal with, but there's a lot of ways to examine what intelligence is and how it operates
[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Growth mindset is a privilege of the few with tons of resources for whom potential seems limitless. But really, they can only learn two or tree things well.

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[–] ztwhixsemhwldvka@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I could be wrong though

Lol

[–] medem@lemmy.wtf 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd argue that learning to socialise, and the so-called social intelligence that comes with it, is THE killer argument for schools and against homeschooling.

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[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

I think that's a good part of it, learning fundamentals of things you'll need is also vital. I've grown to mostly appreciate learning how to learn. It's a skill that's implicit, but putting the building blocks in at an early stage regarding how to seek and learn knowledge sets you up so well for the rest of your existence.

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it's more nuanced than that, and it really depends on the level of education.

Making kids memorise things also teaches them the process of learning a thing. Testing them on facts, dates, and formulas has value because it tests whether they're able to learn those facts, dates, and formulas.

In high school maths, I had to learn formulas. When I was applying to university, the admissions test came with a formula booklet. It was assumed I knew how to learn formulas, they were testing whether I'd learned how to look up the correct formula, and apply it. They weren't just testing my mathematical ability, they were simultaneously testing my reference skills. I only really appreciated that when I was much older.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Making kids memorise things also teaches them the process of learning a thing.

Well, there's different ways of learning things and i'm more the associative type, which is quite the reverse of memorizing.

[–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I’m an associater too. Didn’t stop me from being top of every class I’ve ever been in. Take the time to study how to learn, specifically how you learn

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Many times when I post on Lemmy I am then educated. I do appreciate it a lot, thanks everyone.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Another way to think about it is to say that education is the memorization of knowledge, while intelligence is the application of said knowledge. i.e. book smarts vs. street smarts. They aren’t the same things, but are two building blocks that work together.

At least that’s how I look at it.

[–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I disagree about education being about memorization. Education is about knowledge being imparted. Testing is often about memorization, although I'd argue that's usually only with poorly designed tests. To me, a good education is also a lot about teaching critical thinking skills.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Memorization is such a strange thing to try to teach. I was never good at that in school but could sing any song on the radio after hearing it once. In school I was good enough at math up to a point because I was so bad at memorization got good at thinking my way through it. Was much better at word problems than equations in elementary school.

I do agree with the premise of the shower thought - part of being educated is learning through mistakes. Making mistakes is one of the fastest ways to learn something, and is the main reason I'm good at my job. I am happy to work in accounting where mistakes don't kill anyone.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

There was a popular author of technical books about the Commodore 64 who thought nuclear bombs aren't real.

You can have a few neurons really good at one thing, they don't map over to other things.

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