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I was reading through Servarr wiki's VPN Guide and saw this callout:

For most users, secure DNS is sufficient instead of VPNs and fixes indexer connectivity issues without the complexity and problems of VPN setups

Are VPNs no longer the recommended practice? I was under the impression a VPN was pretty much required for sharing stuff in a copyright-sensitive country. I'd be delighted if I could simplify my app stack.

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[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 35 minutes ago

Sonarr doesn't do any downloading, so that's why it doesn't specifically need a VPN.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The VPN is needed for the torrent client. If you use it with the arr programs, you will probably be blocked by anything that's behind cloudflare.

[–] HeartyOfGlass@piefed.social 4 points 4 hours ago

Glad to see I wasn't out-of-the-loop. That's what I figured, but the little callout in the wiki had me questioning.

Thanks for the sanity check

[–] Overspark@piefed.social 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Also: VPN is only really needed for torrenting, and that's not the only way to pirate stuff. Usenet is perfectly fine to use without a VPN, since it's encrypted (TLS/SSL if you configure it right) and other parties can't just join your P2P network to see what you're doing.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 1 points 17 minutes ago

I still use one with Usenet, because why not.

[–] dmention7@midwest.social 11 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I think you need to look at the points above, where it lists the cases where VPN is recommended:

When VPNs are Needed Highly Restrictive Countries: China or Australia where internet access is heavily restricted ISP Throttling: If your ISP specifically throttles or blocks BitTorrent traffic Legal Requirements: If local laws require VPN use for P2P/BitTorrent activities

Not sure where you're located, but in most of the USA, not using a VPN runs you the risk of at least getting a nastygram from your ISP. How much that means to you depends on how worried you are about getting your service disconnected or sued by the owner of whatever you're seeding. For me personally, a VPN is a no-brainer.

ETA: I may have missed the subtler point of your post. I personally do not have my *arr apps behind a VPN, only my torrenting app. I think that is what the wiki is specifically addressing.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 6 points 4 hours ago

As far as I know the arr suite tools do not download things. They scour publicly available pages for torrent links and meta data, so they don't really need to be behind a VPN. The download client it all ends in should definitely be behind a VPN though

[–] svddendesire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

Maybe for troubleshooting? Like they say for Gluetun part, and Prowlarr indexers needing more configurations. I think it's recommended to use a vpn in most countries.