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None of the last 31 political attacks was by anyone from 'the Left'. Not one. We can count them. - AzExpress (azexpress.net)
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So how many of the 24 perpetrators of the 31 targeted political murders or attempted murders since 2018 were from the Left? Let’s count them..

In 2018, Cesar Altieri Sayoc was sentenced to 20 years prison for sending pipe bombs to nine prominent Democrats, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and Maxine Waters. Sayoc was a registered Republican.

In 2020, 13 men attempted to punish Michigan’s Democrat Governor Gretchen Whitmer for enforcing Covid lockdown measures. All were far right extremists.

Roy Den Hollander murdered human rights lawyer Marc Angelucci in July 2020. He then tried to kill district judge Esther Salas, but succeeded instead in murdering her son and seriously wounding her husband. Hollander was a far right Trump supporter.

Quintez Brown attempted to kill Democratic Mayor of Louisville, Kentucky, Craig Greenberg, in February 2022. Brown was motivated by Black nationalism, pan-Africanism and revolutionary socialism.

In October 2022 David DePape seriously injured Paul Pelosi with a hammer while seeking to kill House of Representatives Speaker, Nancy Pelosi. DePape is a far right Trump supporter.

In December 2022, Solomon Peña paid gunmen to attack the houses of Democrat state lawmakers in New Mexico. Peña is a registered Republican and a former candidate for state office.

Craig Robertson was shot and killed by FBI agents in August 2023 while being arrested for threats against President Joe Biden and others. Robertson was an army veteran with extreme right wing views.

Donald Trump himself was targeted at a July 2024 rally in Pennsylvania. The shooter Thomas Crooks killed one attendee and injured three others, including Trump, whose ear was cut by a flying fragment. Crooks was a registered Republican.

Another attempt on Trump’s life, thwarted before completion, was made by Trump voter Ryan Routh in September 2024. The trial is continuing.

In April 2025, Cody Balmer attempted to kill Pennsylvania’s Democratic Governor Josh Shapiro in an arson attack which caused extensive property damage but no injuries. Balmer was a Trump supporter at the time.

The Democrat Speaker of the Minnesota House of Representatives Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark Hortman were killed by avid Trump supporter and registered Republican Vance Boelter in June 2025.

Boelter then attempted to murder Minnesota Senator John Hoffman and succeeded in seriously injuring the senator and his wife.

Lastly, right wing influencer Charlie Kirk was shot last Wednesday by Tyler Robinson, a white student from a gun-loving Republican Mormon family. Robinson has no party links, but has reportedly embraced the extremism of right wing racist Nick Fuentes.

How many from the Left?

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

It's ok, I'm sure the person who shot up two homeless encampments was a leftist.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

probably part of the reason republicans think they can get away with absolutely anything they want and that they are completely above the law.

[–] sudo@lemmy.today 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

But the one time someone (Luigi) from the left (allegedly) uses violence to make a statement (not directly political), they are overwhelmingly supported by the public. Huh.

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 hours ago

Didn't he espouse strong libertarian views? ... Big ayn rand fan if I recall correctly

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 22 hours ago

There was also the congressional baseball shooter

[–] TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Luigi Mangione, the tech bro cum eugenics enjoyer? Is that the leftist we’re talking about here?

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel like I missed something there

[–] TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He had a lot of ideas that are not left, more like chronically online incel stuff mixed with general tech bro stuff. Don’t really remember the specifics any more, not interesting stuff really

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

i mean, he's 27. every time you decide to lionize someone, they're going to have rough edges you have to shave off to make them fit the Public Hero stereotype.

[–] 01189998819991197253 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

NonAmerican here with a stupid question that I feel I should already know, but can't seem to grasp: is right = republican and left = democrat?

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is no left in the US political landscape.

Far right = republican

Centre right = democrat

[–] 01189998819991197253 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So, what would left be, then?

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 3 points 22 hours ago

Green, PSL, maybe DSA.

[–] toxicbubble@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

green party

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Oh, that's the crickets party.

[–] this@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Yea, basically we Americans are too stupid to understand the complexity of different political systems, so most of us boil it down to Left/Liberal/Democrat/socialist/communist/ect and Right/Conservative/Republican/fascist/Libertarian/nazi/ect with everything I just mentioned supposedly existing on opposing sides of one imaginary line somehow.

Also, the Republicans and Democrats are the only two political parties that have (or for the time being, can have) power in the us, because of the two party system, which makes the problem worse.

[–] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For the most part yes.

[–] 01189998819991197253 2 points 1 day ago

That's easy to remember. Right Republican

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Effectively yes, that's been the long and short of it for about 80 years now.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

But after the first one, there at some point inevitably will be, they will no longer play nice.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Ah, see, counting. That's where you have already lost 'em.

[–] homoludens@feddit.org 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How many from the Left?

According to the list: one (Quintez Brown). Which is surprising, as the title says "Not one".

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

~~mid, not left. nationalist, but socialist. is not confined to the left~~

[–] renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

despite the name Black nationalism is a leftist ideology

[–] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

can i ask How? (Not 'murican btw)

[–] homoludens@feddit.org 1 points 15 hours ago

AFAIK (and obviously not very nuanced): when you're living in a colony, national independence (-> nationalism) can be considered "leftist" because it's an increase in self-governance and self-determination. Black nationalism covers a lot of concepts and goals (and several centuries), from founding an actual independent nation (e.g. because the white supremacist society is seen as fundamentally broken) to promoting building independent structures by and for Black people, buying from Black owned businesses etc. As it is seen as a way to empower marginalized groups, it can be seen as leftist. Obviously, things can also become weird and/or right wing rather fast.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

huh. yeah. kind of a shit name, then, eh

[–] MrFappy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

He’s from a far right extremist group, just not the white nationalist one we are used to. But his views were essentially far right for the black world.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“For years, those on the radical Left have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis and the world’s worst mass murderers and criminals. This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism that we’re seeing in our country today.” - Trump

Wow, what do you know. Trump not recognizing his own contributions to the kind of rhetoric that is directly responsible for this shit.

Trump is the reason things are the way they are.

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world -2 points 20 hours ago

No, you are. All of you. All you who play the game of culture wars. You both do the same extremist nonsense. People cant even just not like a tv show now without being called a fucking nazi. You have all contributed to the radicalisation and extremism we see today bleeding into the real world. Trump didnt cause that, hes the product of it. He saw a way to gain power, and that was with the right side of said culture war who moan any time a woman is in something. But dont pretend the left... Its not even fucking left. Its just not as right as the right.

You all practice this bullshit way of alienating people, and then act surprised when those you bully fight back. Stop it, and the Trumps of the world will lose their power.

[–] KaijuTeaParty@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Source on Tyler embracing Nick Fuentes? I heard early speculation about that but recently saw CNN articles pointing him to being at least left leaning

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/16/us/what-charges-charlie-kirk-case

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Fuentes part has been floated around cause of the memes in the bullet casings. I wouldn't call Tyler left leaning, but possibly questioning his right wing roots. There is evidence he's unaffiliated by party, though, which should be unsurprising given his age. Its easy to look that up, though I'm not op.

Ops overall point does stand, though, as Tyler is raised in right wing gun culture even if his motive is unclear at this time.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Plenty of leftists are raised in right wing gun culture

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

yeah, but St George Utah is a special kind of right wing gun culture. we'll add a few hours on our road trips to avoid it if we can.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

So it could possibly produce a special kind of leftist?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

i mean i was a professional musician in utah. if i was going to meet leftists doing anything, it would be that. i grew up "conservative" (a lifelong project to correct) in california. the "leftists" i met in utah were significantly more conservative than i was. overton windows dude.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Robinson has no party links, but has reportedly embraced the extremism of right wing racist Nick Fuentes.

Reportedly from where? This claim from what I gather is simply not true. He was dating a transgender furry for crying out loud, and the bullet said "catch, fascist"

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

transgender furry

[Citation needed]. Rad as hell if true tho.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

https://media.snopes.com/2025/09/robinson_indictment.pdf

Robinson’s mother explained that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and had started to lean more to the left – becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented. She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders. This resulted in several discussions with family members, but especially between Robinson and his father, who have very different political views. In one conversation before the shooting, Robinson mentioned that Charlie Kirk would be holding an event at UVU, which Robinson said was a “stupid venue” for the event. Robinson accused Kirk of spreading hate.

https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/articles/c740wxwg1keo

https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/text-messages-tyler-robinson-charlie-kirk-trans-7cxqbdjch

https://www.primetimer.com/news/what-is-a-furry-lance-twiggs-link-to-community-emerges-online-as-tyler-robinson-roommate-trends-online

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Their evidence that he's a furry is that he wore a silly bat-shaped hat?

Kinda a stretch there, but assuming the court doc is referencing real documents, then yeah no dude wasn't a groyper.

Still could be cops fabricating or accepting evidence without vetting it.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Furry is still up for debate tbh. I still don't think he was a groyper, though. I couldn't find any evidence of it except from speculation that there's a possibility.

Although IIRC attempts have been made on Fuentes' life as well