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No cure so you gotta rest. Nose is stuffed so you gotta mouth breathe. Throat is dry from mouth breathing. Dry throat makes it painful to swallow. Pain keeps you from sleeping and recovering. Lack of sleep leads to worse symptoms like piercing headaches. Need to rest to get rid of the headaches. Headache and swallowing is too painful to rest properly. Lack of rest perpetuates headaches, nose congestion, dry throat, painful swallowing.

What is this BS

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[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

I'll say from personal experience, I found out that my body is actually awesome at responding to colds - I just don't let it.

Storytime - for pretty much all my life, I've had what I considered a pretty normal and functioning immune system. I would get a cold, feel how you felt for a few days or weeks, mostly just power through, and then I'd be back to normal.

However, in college I took 6 months off to hike the Appalachian Trail. This was great for a lot of reasons, but one thing I noticed (which everyone around me agreed on when I mentioned it to them), is that I'd pretty much stopped getting colds. For reference, trail life is not at all sanitary. Daily showers and grooming are the stuff of fantasy. Washing your hands after you take a shit is rare. If you frequent the small lean-to shelters along the trail to sleep (as I did almost every night), you will be sleeping shoulder to shoulder with other hikers with similar levels of hygiene. And it's not like we are somehow not catching and transmitting pathogens to each other. Every year, things like the flu or norovirus will rip through the hiking community, leaving 100 mile stretches of trail where you'll walk past dozens of hikers groaning in their tents (haphazardly set up just feet from the trail), with a pool of vomit just outside.

But the whole time I was on the trail, I never got a cold. As long as I wasn't sick sick, I felt very generally healthy. Why?

Well, the life I was living was very different than my normal life. I think I am decently healthy in my normal life. I eat a healthy diet and exercise regularly. But on the trail, I had a lot more things going for me.

  • I slept a lot, in sync with my circadian rhythm. 8pm was widely agreed to be "hiker's midnight", since about 15 minutes after the sun went down, all the hikers would start feeling sleepy and decide to go to bed. I would usually knock out instantly, and then wake up at first light, groggily peer out my tent at the coming morning, take a piss, then roll back over and sleep for another hour or two.
  • I was getting a lot of exercise. This exercise was rarely particularly strenuous, but every day I would wake up, shoulder my pack, and walk about 15 miles.
  • I had a phone, but had no backup battery bank, mini solar charger, or anything like that. Cell reception in the hills typically oscillated between bad and nonexistant. So my phone almost universally lived in the bottom of a stuff sack inside my backpack. I would take it out maybe once every couple days to listen to a song or two before turning it off again to conserve prescious battery life in case of emergency. Partly this helped because it meant that I wasn't staring at a bright phone screen when I should be sleeping. But more than that, I think it helped because I wasn't constantly feeding my brain a stream of nee content. I spent almost my entire day, every day, hiking in the forest in silence with no distractions. All I had to entertain myself was noticing the environment around me, occassionally checking my map and digital watch to calculate how far to the next stream/shelter/trail junction/town, and whatever thoughts came up in my head.
  • I spent pretty much all my time breathing fresh air. Most of the time I was in rural land with very little air pollution, and even when I did approach population centers, they tended to be, at most, medium-sized towns.
  • When I wasn't hiking or camping alone, I was hiking and camping with other hikers. Trail life tends to dissolve the differences in class, age, national origin, political affiliation, religion, or anything else. Everyone shares a common interest - life on the trail - so conversation tends to flow easily. Trail talk tends to center around things hikers think about - food, water, miles, towns, shelters, gear, other hikers, weather, poop. Outside the rare individual who gives off bad vibes, everyone is welcome and welcoming, creating a general sense of community and support.
  • I had a well defined goal, obvious steps to take to achieve it, and made progress every day. The goal: walk to the northern terminus. The plan: wake up, break camp, walk. Every day, I could lay down in bed and look at my map, celebrating the progress I'd made, seeing how much closer I was to some landmark like a town, a mountaintop vista, or a significant mile marker. With a clear goal like this and few other distractions, my sense of time dialated significantly - the present moment became paramount. The next few and previous few miles were all that mattered. Yesterday and tomorrow were significant markers in my mind. But the town I was in 3 days ago, I felt I hadn't seen in years. And when I started the trail? What I would do when I finished? That was another lifetime.

All these things, I think, contributed to my physical and mental health. And doing so, they either (a) improved my immune system enough that the common cold was stamped out long before my body had to create congestion to deal with it, or (b) my immune system wasn't overreacting to a relatively minor threat, and was simply taking care of these minor viral infections in the background without bothering me

[–] Screamium@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago

When I have a cold I wear a cloth mask to bed and that actually helps reduce the sore throat I get from breathing dry air. Also, it does a pretty good job of preventing my partner from getting sick as well!

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 22 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

All that IS the response, and without it, a virus would kill you.

You are better off toughing it out than taking drugs that block the responses.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

thank you for your advice, doctor...?

[–] lando55@lemmy.zip 4 points 48 minutes ago

Dr Trustmebro. It's Romanian.

[–] radiouser@crazypeople.online 27 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

You've survived every one you've caught so far haven't you? That's a testament to it's awesomeness!

[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

And you haven't been mauled by any lions either, have you?

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I think that the real wonderment is that, even though we know the way virusses are distributed. And that social distancing is adamant in preventing that distribution, we simple tend to ignore this and spreading that shit like crazy.

That weird behaviour costs our economy millions.

That “weird behavior” of close, social cooperation is why we’re the apex predators of this planet, for better or worse.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 35 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The immune system is fucking incredible, you should read up on it and then you'll never make a post like this again!

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I was about to say this too. It does a pretty fucking incredible job at fighting colds.

Wait. Was this a troll post, and I just ate it up?

[–] Sunschein@piefed.social 22 points 6 hours ago

A lot of people in this thread saying that viruses are losing when we live through a cold. That's just not true. Their goal is to live/reproduce, not to kill. They're winning at a different game, it just hurts us as a byproduct.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

bad at it? you literally rest for a week then recover, as opposed to dying. your pretty fucking good at it. you just don't know how bad it could be

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 7 points 4 hours ago

Yeah I think the real thing is just not understanding how bad a cold without an immune system would be. IE only real way to put it in context is, read up on what an immune-comprimised individual goes through when they get a cold.

It's a bit like saying

"why is my countries missile defense so crappy, whenever we're attacked there's chunks of metal all over the ground, so much smoke and noise it makes it hard to sleep, why are we so bad at defending from missiles".

[–] decended_being@midwest.social 20 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

The real question should be:

Why is our society built around disposable labor and assuming we will be at 100% functionality all the time?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 hours ago
[–] remon@ani.social 4 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

It isn't? That's why you get paid sick leave.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Trying to figure out if you are joking, or you are from a nicer country that getting paid sick leave is something everyone gets. Good chunk of the american work force, has to negotiate with their boss, go to a doctor that's going to charge them between $50-$200 so they can tell you "yep you have a cold, here's a note so you can prove it to your boss", so you can give that note to your boss and hopefully not get fired for taking some UNPAID days off. (of course as most states are "at will" if you do that too often you still run the risk of getting fired for "no reason" later).

[–] remon@ani.social 6 points 4 hours ago

It's the nicer country.

[–] KeefChief13@lemmy.world 17 points 6 hours ago

Lol good one.

[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

That really depends on what country you live in. The US doesn't require sick leave AFAIK and Canada only requires 5 days. So that's like 300 days where you have to choose between getting better or paying rent. More socially progressive countries get paid sick leave, not everyone.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 23 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Look at this guy with his sick leave and ability to stay home and rest when he's sick!

[–] Tuuktuuk@piefed.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

What about him?

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 139 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

If it makes you feel any better, your microscopic attacker is not having a very good time with your body's response either. You're the undefeated champion in this arena so far, keep up the winning streak.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 13 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know about who is the champion. The virus eventually fails to multiply in the host, but it meanwhile spreads to others.

[–] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

How about we consider everyone a champion?

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] kn33@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

This woke-ass participation trophy shit is ruining my flu season!

[–] Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 92 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Dude, you are in a million years battle with other organisms trying to exploit and kill you, and you're fucking winning. I would call that a blazing success. The other organisms are trying their literal best, their survival depends on it, and you just KEEP. ON. WINNING.

[–] Typhoonigator@lemmy.world 102 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Some might even call this million years battle a cold war

[–] Senseless@feddit.org 33 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

deep sigh

Okay, here's your upvote. Now leave.

[–] EditsHisComments@lemmy.world 24 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Actually, please don't. It's Lemmy and we need all the users we can get

[–] Tuuktuuk@piefed.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

I'm not using Lemmy. Do I have to leave?

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[–] TeamAssimilation 3 points 5 hours ago

These organisms are doing their best, okay? They’re just too smol.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 20 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

The common cold is a family of coronaviruses, our bodies have been fighting off their mutations for millennia. An mRNA vaccines for colds, if I remember correctly, was in the works, but, well, we've all seen what's happening there

[–] Pipster@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Its more often rhinoviruses rather than coronaviruses or other families

[–] protist@mander.xyz 20 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

I disagree, there's no way a rhino could fit in there

[–] TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

That's true, and I've certainly been able to down 2 or 9 coronas in one night before

[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago

Everything's a dildo if you're brave enough!

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[–] Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 23 points 9 hours ago

You know symptoms is the tangible evidence of your body fighting the fucker? I'm no scientist but I remember hearing that apparently a raised body temp is one method of killing the cunt that's trying to attack you.

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 19 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

With these symptoms you can’t run, you can’t hunt, you can’t burn too many calories. Your body does everything in its power to prevent you from using resources your body needs to defeat the sickness.

That’s the reason why placebo meds work: the fact that the doctor gave you medicine means that you are really sick, and therefore you have to rest. In reality you’re behaving differently and therefore you’ll get healthy faster.

Oh: and you’re slightly dehydrated so you don’t have that much risk of infecting others.

We are tribal animals. Apes together strong. We care for the sick ones because that means they can focus on recovery.

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[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

It's more like colds are incredibly good at responding to the human body. Following the evolution of corona was quite amazing, no?

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