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I was gonna say, this was something they already tried in his first term during covid.

The lack of serious backlash, outrage, or even general coverage of the insanity and facism that's coming out of the current administration by the media is pretty concerning.

It feels like everyone is just running with it, and I have a hard time beleiving that many people are OK with all of this.

Don't confuse not being an ammo sexual with not fighting.

I dunno. Hate groups have become much more bolder and appearing in public spaces. Have their own podcasts and their own media networks (Rebel News and Ezra Levant, etc.) They're also forming militias, training for combat and firearm use, and even infiltrating the military forces to recruit new members. Source Source 2 Bands with allegiances to these groups have also produced music with hate speech and racist lyrics, talking about bringing back gas chambers, etc. This is no joke.

77,302,580 Americans voted for Trump out of a total of 340,865,045 individuals. That makes the total number of Americans who wanted some part of what's going on strongly enough to take some action is roughly 23%. 75 million Americans voted for Harris and 37 million Americans were registered, but did not vote which is roughly 33%.

Only 55% of the country is registered to vote so it's really hard to tell what the 45% of Americans who aren't registered feel politically, but it's probably safe to assume if they can't be bothered to vote, they're probably not down for the civil war remix.

Of the 23% who voted conservative in 2024, not all of them hold far right beliefs. It's hard to say what fraction of that population would fall on the far right, especially because Trumpism itself holds some far right ideology. Even assuming half of all republican voters are ready and willing to engage in a civil war, that's only 35 million people or 11% of the population.

They're really loud online and currently have control of the government, but there really aren't that many of them. There are far more people who don't care, centrists, democrats, and leftists.

It's more like 1/3 because 1/3 of Americans don't vote. Also, that 1/3 that votes Republican is the most politically uninformed 1/3. And many of them don't actually know what the people they vote for believe, they just vote R because they always have.

Perhaps they only ever interact with other republicans cause surely if they hated the democrats that much then there would be shootings in Walmart everyday.

I'm told there were about 500 mass shootings (4 or more people) last year. So we're pretty close.

And I don't think it's 52%. A lot of people don't vote or update their voter records. But there does seem to be a frothy core that's getting high on hating people.

I think conservatives are more insular, too. If you live in a city and actually see and interact with other kinds of people, its harder to hate them as monsters.

Sort of.

I mean - yes - corporations do it, but for them it's a simple business strategy. It's not a matter of whether they want to believe it or not - it's just that that information getting out would hurt their profits and nothing matters more than their profits.

But for right-wingers, it's some sort of weird cognitively dissonant delusional dogma thing - like if they can successfully hide the evidence to the contrary, that'll somehow make their beliefs actually true. They'll be able to face the new day, confident that their beliefs are true, because after all, nobody can prove otherwise, right?

Yeah:

"The only perpetrator arguably from the Left is Black nationalist Quintez Brown."

So they did acknowledge it, but kind of gave it a pass because he wasn't "affiliated with the Democratic Party or any other mainstream reformist, progressive or leftist organisation".

I think it's still a bit up in the air about whether Tyler Robinson had a consistent ideology. He is 22, an age where political leanings can be all over the place and evolve pretty rapidly. Whatever the case, it seems he operated alone. So we can consider how much online rhetoric influenced him one way or another, but it doesn't seem like there was any organizational pressure or even a forum that had a chance to talk him into or out of his plan.

The article does make a broader point well supported by data, broadly speaking the right has gotten more violent and we don't see a similar pattern on the left. No matter which way Tyler lands or just attributed to less ostensibly political ideology, I think the trend is still valid. It's somewhat less dangerous if they can definitively establish him as a Fuentes like, but I fear he might be credibly "grown out of it".

I would straight up start busting windows out of any vehicle with trump stickers. But I have a family who needs fed and housed, so I don't.

Yet.