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[–] firewyre@lemmy.world 4 points 38 minutes ago

I'm glad she doesn't feel safe anymore

[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 hour ago

Lol, saying this as if red states won't turn into a third world country as soon as they're cut off from federal aid.

Yeah... because of you...

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like a scam.

Anyway, I don't think we should tolerate red states letting kids grow up hungry or get bullied to death.

That's what federation was for.

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 3 points 2 hours ago

NGL, everyone here who is ready to throw the browns, gays, and neurospicies, and 70% bottom earning sapiens from half of u.s. states under the bus instead of slaying the gerrymander that's choking everyone to death...?

Idk. Sounds kind of like "If I sacrifice the other family to the face eating jaguar the face eating jaguar won't eat my face and my family next month."

Sounds too familiar. We all know how that goes.

[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

As much as many of us would welcome it, the reality is that the new MAGA country would declare war on us immediately.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

Lol, just using the same language where they justify bombing any other country. We have to kill them so they can have our freedoms.

[–] jokersteve@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Sounds like a win-win situation to me.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 1 hour ago

Pakistan and Palestine would like to weigh in

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

"Anyone" means her. O well

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 10 points 4 hours ago

Lol sure

As a show of good faith, call back ICE from all the blue states and never send them back

[–] quacky@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

Who is going to pay child support

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 hour ago

Awesome, let me know when the estate sale starts.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think that's such a bad idea. The richest states are blue, the poorest states are red. The entire country is a failed state already, might be good to start with a clean slate. And doing that without the need of a bloody revolution sounds good to me.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago

The richest states are blue, the poorest states are red.

But the richest parts of the bluest states are bankrolling this administration. California's Silicon Valley is awash in fascism. New York's Staten Island has an enormous base of Trump support. Washington's Amazon, Microsoft, and Beoing C-levels are all in the tank for this administration.

Also, there are plenty of wealthy red states - Texas, Florida, Ohio, and Georgia are all in the top 10 by GDP. There are plenty of poor communities in these big red states that are disproportionately liberal.

There are plenty of purple states that can't be divided by trivially. What do you do with a Pennsylvania or Virginia or Wisconsin, with a divided government and regular partisan swing?

The entire country is a failed state already, might be good to start with a clean slate

This wouldn't be any kind of clean slate. Everyone would still be carrying their political baggage with them.

And much of the economy of these states is interdependent. Water rights from the Mississippi and Colorado run through divided turf. California and New York both need access to ports along the Gulf Coast to operate solvently. "Fly Over" states like Iowa and Nebraska produce giant food surpluses. We still need all our transcontinental rail networks, highways, and airlines to function as state level economies.

This isn't a baby you can just split down the middle

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 15 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Anyone under the delusion that splitting a country can be peaceful should research any split since the idea of nationalism took hold. India and Pakistan are still the odds on favorite to kill us all with a nuclear winter.

[–] survirtual@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

This reminds me of the spike in cellular biophoton emissions during mitosis.

Biophoton emissions, basically a faint glow of light emitted by living cells due to metabolic processes, increase sharply at the moment a cell replicates into two cells. It appears as a flash if observing these emissions.

There is a lot to learn about our ideal society by observing our biological processes. The human body is a good example of a functioning mass-scale social substrate. The representative sample that guides the body is billions of neurons. Considering a human body has around 37 trillion cells, and roughly 170 billion brain cells (86 billion neurons + 85 billion non-neural brain cells), that gives us around a 200:1 representative sample. For every 200 cells, there is 1 representative.

Fascinating, isn't it? Dunbar's number states humans can only keep track of a limited number of relationships. That number is a cognitive limit of around 150 stable relationships that we can keep track of. The limit's range has been stretched to 100 - 250 stable relationships.

In other words...the ratio of brain cells to other cells is nearly the same as Dunbar's number. It is reasonable to conclude, then, for a functioning society (because human bodies are far more functional than our planetary society), we need to have a ratio limit on representation. That limit is 200:1. For every 200 people, we need 1 representative.

For the US, for example, with 347 million people, a stable government would need 1.7 million representatives. Sounds crazy, doesn't it, compared to the ass backwards mechanism at play now? But think about it for a bit, and you will find why it is so stable.

That is too many people for an elite to control. It is too many to be corrupted. It adds redundancy. It adds direct accountability, each rep would have a personal relationship with their people, because it is within the Dunbar limit of what they can keep track of.

Something to think about.

States would have to be split as well, and random chunks of states. And soon as anyone says, "how do we split up the national debt" people would say huh, impossible to split.

[–] Octavio@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I’m not aware of any major strife between Czechia and Slovakia. I may have missed it. It would obviously be harder in the US, where the divide is more urban vs. rural than regional, but I wouldn’t say it’s never been done.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

I’m not aware of any major strife between Czechia and Slovakia

Czechoslovakia was a combination of two historically distinct ethnic groups, so there was relatively little "sorting" during the partisan in the wake of the USSR's collapse.

Compared to the break up of Yugoslavia or the "Two State Solution" in Israel, it was utopian. But that's a hold over of the pre-WWs ethnic make up of these regions. You don't have anything like this in the much more internally diverse and mixed populations of the US.

Furthermore, over the last five years, the high rate of undocumented immigration and smuggling has lead to Czechnia tightening its border. We may see a rise in ethnic nationalism create friction in the future.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Nah. I personally am enjoying watching the Republican farmers suffer. It is cathartic to see them cry. It is a sliver of joy in my heart to watch them beg.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Split into the conservative leecher states and the progressive earner states? How will they finance their new conservative utopia? Hate only feeds you that long...

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 2 points 2 hours ago

slavery, then war, more enslaving, more war. repeat.

[–] renrenPDX@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

As neat as it sounds, the logistics would be a nightmare. Remember, Republicans don't follow the rules, so encouraging Democrats to leave the south is easier than having Republicans leave the west coast for example. They want things to affect us, not them.

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 1 points 1 hour ago

I think the nightmare is the point. It's easy to do a lot of stabing and stealing in the middle of Changing Literaly Everything. Why don't we make ourselves vulnerable by putting everything in transition and see how much can get embezzled in a year.

DOGE mercs already walked out with any data they could get. Weird mozilla didn't e-mail me about the security breach./jk

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago

You know, if you guys stop being so goddamned violent, everyone would be very safe.

JFC, this isn't rocket science.

[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Oh, then they could have a real war instead of a civil war, diabolical.

[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

That cunt gives Sasquatches a bad name.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

People in economically productive cities: "does this mean we can do a gun control?"

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

And stop sending our tax revenue to unappreciative red states who just take take take, and then whine about it while offering nothing of value.

If the US balkanized along party lines, it wouldn't even be months before they revert to a scavenger society carrying out raids on border towns, and begging bleeding hearts in blue cities for charity.

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 2 points 1 hour ago

Begging? You mean come take whatever?

RedNation likes an excuse to shoot and loot. Divorce is just an othering tactic so Fascists can come 'forecefully reorganize' democratic neighbors.

[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago

She's right. It's not safe. Good thing her side gets all the deep red, gun-loving terrorists who've committed all of the recent atrocities. I'm sure her new country will be really safe with all those people in it.

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 22 points 14 hours ago

The USA is currently united in the same way the DPRK is democratic, and Nazi’s are socialist.

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