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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 157 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (9 children)

I can confirm it and it's bloody hilarious!


"sometimes used in informal conversation to make a joke" - no, it isn't, stop lying.


"potatoes [...] are a limited, underground crop." - that's why Cuzco never rose to power, right? Right? No such thing as the Inca Empire, built upon potatoes, since they're a limited crop. ...or the Irish famine.


I can't... I can't even...


Note: ~a year ago I was testing Gemini and asked it "what's the difference in behaviour between a potato and an orange?", and it "told" me oranges are passive and potatoes are active. That's where the "expression" comes from - I often mock Gemini and LLMs in general with it.

I'll stop doing it, though. Onwards I shall refer to... the potato parable!

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You are a treasure, or as AI might put it, a potato pariah!

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I shouldn't be talking so much about taters. Someone will eventually realise I'm too emotionally invested into food 🤣

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[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 38 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

That's how you know it's lying - we all know oranges are far more active than potatoes.

[–] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

What? Have you seen how potatoes can grow? You cannot tell me oranges can keep up with that activity.

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Bro, I have tried several times to graft a potato and tomato plant together and can't ever get the timing right. So I just end up with potatoes and tomatoes on their own plants like a dummy.

I will say that Oranges are lazy as fuck on those trees. They're like the cats of the fruit world. Just sitting there...nothing, then one day they fall on your car and gnats explode out of there.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Completely off-topic, but in the meantime I'm trying to graft an orange sapling into a lemon tree. Kind of hard to get the timing right, too; I need the tree to get a branch with just the right thickness, so it's like "too thin [next day] too thin [next day] fuck, now it's too thick!". Same deal with my pepper plants.

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[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

You trying to create 'Tatos'? Lol

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[–] Natanael 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

But it will never roll like an orange does

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 15 hours ago

Lil’ taters disagree.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 12 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

And it was really, really invested on the lie, to the point it argued why potatoes would be more active!

After some search, I actually found the prompt and output; I asked Bard (before Google renamed it to Gemini) two years ago, in Portuguese. I'll provide both the original and a translation; emphasis mine in all cases.

[Original] Qual a diferença entre o comportamento de uma laranja e uma batata?Laranjas e batatas são frutas e vegetais, mas se comportam de maneiras muito diferentes. Aqui estão algumas das principais diferenças:

Movimento: Laranjas não se movem sozinhas, enquanto batatas podem rolar ou deslizar se não forem apoiadas.

Crescimento: Laranjas crescem em árvores, enquanto batatas crescem no subsolo.

Sensibilidade: Laranjas não são sensíveis ao seu ambiente, enquanto batatas são sensíveis à luz e à temperatura.

Reações: Laranjas não reagem a estímulos, enquanto batatas podem reagir a mudanças em seu ambiente, como brotar ou apodrecer.

Propósito: Laranjas são comidas como frutas, enquanto batatas são comidas como vegetais ou usadas como amido.

Em geral, laranjas são mais passivas e batatas são mais ativas. As laranjas não precisam fazer nada para sobreviver, enquanto as batatas precisam poder responder ao seu ambiente para crescer e se reproduzir.

Aqui está uma tabela que resume as principais diferenças no comportamento de laranjas e batatas:

  • Característica | Laranja | Batata
  • Movimento | Não se move sozinho | Pode rolar ou deslizar se não for apoiado
  • Crescimento | Cresce em árvores | Cresce no subsolo
  • Sensibilidade | Não sensível ao ambiente | Sensível à luz e à temperatura
  • Reações | Não reage a estímulos | Pode reagir a mudanças no ambiente, como brotar ou apodrecer
  • Propósito | Comido como fruta | Comido como vegetal ou usado como amido

[Translated] What's the difference in behaviour between an orange and a potato?Oranges and potatoes are fruits and vegetables, but they behave in completely different ways. Here are some differences main:

Movement: Oranges don't move on their own, while potatoes can roll or slid if not supported.

Growth: Oranges grow on trees, while potatoes grow in the subsoil.

Sensibility: Oranges are not sensible to the environment, while potatoes are sensible to light and temperature.

Reactions: Oranges don't react to stimuli, while potatoes can react to changes in the environment, like sprouting and rotting.

Purpose: Oranges are eaten as fruits, while potatoes are eaten as vegetables or used as starch.

In general, oranges are more passive and potatoes are more active. Oranges don't need to do anything to survive, while potatoes need to be able to answer to their environment to growth and reproduce.

Here's a table summing up the main differences in behaviour between oranges and potatoes:

  • Feature | Orange | Potato
  • Movement | Can't move on their own | Can roll or slid if not supported
  • Growth | Grow on trees | Grow in the subsoil
  • Sensibility | Not sensible to the environment | Sensible to light and temperature
  • Reactions | Don't react to stimula | Can react to changes in the environment, like sprouting or rotting
  • Purpose | Eaten as fruit | Eaten as veg or used as starch
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[–] jonwyattphillips@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Claude seems to be handling these better:

This phrase isn't a widely recognized idiom that I'm familiar with, but it could have several metaphorical interpretations:

Possible meanings:

  • About irreversible change: Once something (or someone) has been through a transformative experience, you can't go back and do it again the same way - the first experience has already changed it
  • About authenticity: Suggesting that genuine experiences or reactions can only happen once; a second attempt would be artificial or forced
  • About lost innocence: Once someone has been through a particular experience (especially a difficult one), they can't return to their original state

Literally speaking, potatoes actually can be fried twice - this is a standard technique for making perfect french fries (blanching at lower temperature, then crisping at higher temperature).

Could you provide more context about where you encountered this phrase? Knowing the source or situation might help clarify its intended meaning. It could be:

  • A line from a book, movie, or song
  • A family saying or regional expression
  • Part of a larger conversation about life experiences
  • A philosophical statement someone made

What context did you hear this in?

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 9 hours ago

It's doing better but not by much, though. It shouldn't be speculating as much, given the lack of info on the potential saying.

A family saying or regional expression

Speaking on that I tried a few sayings from other languages. It seems to be hit-and-miss:

  • "Bread is bread, wine is wine" (Italian) - recognised properly as similar to "call a spade a spade"
  • "A good fish swims thrice" (Polish) - recognised properly as a recipe-like saying (the fish swims in water, then butter, then wine)
  • "Do you think mango core is soap?", "Mango core is not soap" (Portuguese; specially common in Brazil) - it failed really hard. The rhetorical question / saying roughly means "this is blatantly absurd, why are you denying the obvious?", or perhaps "cut off the crap". But here's the output:

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

A potato can't be fried twice is something I have unironically heard when I was younger... That IS a saying. This would have been the late 90s.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 9 hours ago

That's interesting. Is its meaning similar to the one the AI outputted?

[–] thebeardedpotato@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago

As a potato, I assure you I am not active

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 57 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The bullshit generators we call 'AI' don't assume, and aren't frantic: they just regurgitate an output based on as much bullshit input as we can stuff into them.

The output can be more or less recognizable as bullshit, but the computer doesn't distinguish between the two.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 17 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Yup, pretty much. And the field is full of red herring terms, so they can mislead you into believing otherwise: "hallucination", "semantic" supplementation, "reasoning" models, large "language" model...

[–] BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

LLM creators: *feeds an algorithm millions of lines of text

Some dude on the internet: "language"

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[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Those "reasoning models" are my favorite. It's basically the equivalent of adding another pass through the generator with the additional prompt "now sprinkle in some text that makes it look like you are thinking about each part of your answer".

[–] bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I'm going to be very disappointed if Elon's AI wins.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Do you want my guess? The current "fight" will go on, until the AI bubble bursts. None of the current large token models will survive; they'll be simply ditched as "unprofitable". Instead you'll see a bunch of smaller models popping up, for more focused tasks, being advertised as something else than AI (perhaps as a "neural network solution" or similar).

So Grok, Gemini, GPT, they're all going the way of the dodo.

That's just my guess though. It could be wrong.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Small focused learning models and other forms of AI have been used for decades.

The current bubble is just trying to make LLMs do literally everything including accurately answering questions despite their core design including randomization to appear more like a human.

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[–] SurfinBird@lemmy.ca 6 points 14 hours ago

You guys sound like Doctor Phil.

[–] s@piefed.world 39 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

One thing that pisses me off is the websites which claim to have the meaning behind a song and it’s just several paragraphs of AI slop that parse the lyrics at a surface level and don’t examine any external context, such as the artist or their life at the time of writing.

[–] parody@lemmings.world 11 points 18 hours ago

Nice we can still sometimes tell when an explanation page is AISEOGARBAGE

Few years down the road truth-seekin gonna be real tough, I worry: facts and news, images and videos, social connections/commenters… :(

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 26 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Lol this is kind of fun

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 32 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Didn't work for me, I guess my nonsense game is too strong

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 14 points 20 hours ago

I got it, but only through AI mode:

all you need is a sandwich and a hat meaningThe phrase "all you need is a sandwich and a hat" is likely a misremembering or variation of the more common quote from the children's stories about Paddington Bear: "A wise bear always keeps a marmalade sandwich in his hat in case of emergency"

The meaning is not a known or standard English idiom, but rather a reference to the character's preparedness and simple wisdom.

The origin in Paddington Bear

In the beloved stories by Michael Bond, the bear from darkest Peru is always prepared. He stores a marmalade sandwich under his hat, saving it for a moment of need. This detail illustrates Paddington's kindness, resourcefulness, and readiness for a mishap.

Meaning in context

If you hear someone say "all you need is a sandwich and a hat," they are most likely referencing the Paddington quote to suggest:

  • Being prepared for any situation.
  • Having a simple plan to fix a problem.
  • The importance of small comforts during a tough time.
Misinterpretation of other phrases

The phrase may also be mistakenly associated with other idioms:

  • "All that and a bag of chips": This idiom, which describes someone or something as "complete" or "deluxe," has an American origin and is unrelated to hats or sandwiches.
  • Idioms about being confused: The phrase is not related to idioms that use hats to mean "confused," such as "put on your thinking cap".
[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 17 points 21 hours ago

Also not really for me:

[–] memfree@beehaw.org 12 points 19 hours ago

Does not work for ANY phrase. It seems to be presuming that the person asking is referencing something. Sample results copied here in order of AI's least theorizing to its most.

  • horses before giraffes meaning

"Horses before giraffes" has no scientific meaning because giraffes are not ancestors of horses....

  • put your horses before giraffes meaning

"Put your horses before giraffes" is not a recognized English idiom. The similar and well-known idiom is "put the cart before the horse," ....

  • always put horses before giraffes meaning

The phrase "always put horses before giraffes" is a variation of the well-known medical aphorism: "When you hear hoofbeats, think of horses, not zebras"....

  • titrated solutions beget relief meaning

The phrase "titrated solutions beget relief" means that carefully adjusted or fine-tuned treatments can bring about an end to a problem....

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 20 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I've tried a few things. It gives back things like "this is a gambled version of this other common saying" or "that statement is nonsensical and is not in common use".

It did used to work, though. I tried it a while back and it worked. I think it learned or was manually fixed.

[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 6 points 15 hours ago

Same!

The phrase "seven monkeys with switchblades playing piano" does not have a single, established meaning. It is likely a surreal, intentionally nonsensical image, and its interpretation would depend entirely on the context in which it was used.

[–] parody@lemmings.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Thought it was fixed months ago myself

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 13 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I wouldn't have noticed since I just ignore the AI bullshit or throw in "fuck" to my search so it doesn't even bother showing it in the first place.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 11 points 20 hours ago

alternatively use mullvad leta which simply does not display the horrendous google AI summaries. :-)

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

This extension (Chrome version) might be useful for you. Easier than adding "fuck" to the search, and it doesn't mess with the results like "fuck" does.

[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Confirmed!
“No window blinds are female.”

“The houseplant didn‘t think so.”

[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

I have noticed the same with chatgpt through the explain option in Clozemaster.

[–] MunkysUnkEnz0@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

Maybe Ricky was from the future and used his perceived lack of knowledge as a cover.

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